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From:
Reede Stockton
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 15, 1993 12:32 AM
Richard, I just re-read most of this thread, and my earlier reply to you has a decidedly nasty edge to it. I apologize — I don't usually do that (I hope!). —> Aw…politics is *fun* to argue! And I'm sure you wouldn't be surprised to learn that in addition to…
From:
Steve Stockman
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 15, 1993 12:03 AM
Rich: >>> And I'm sure you wouldn't be surprised to learn that in addition to PCs, I'm a Rush Limbaugh fan.
Where to start ???
Message #131878
From:
Neil Ticktin/MacTech Mag
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Dev. Environments
July 14, 1993 11:19 PM
John, You can find out more about Bedrock in the July issue of MacTech Magazine. For more info about Symantec's new environments, you should check out the product review in the August issue of the magazine. Bedrock demos are also available in our online area. For more information on MacTech…
Symantec C++ 6.0
Message #131877
From:
Neil Ticktin/MacTech Mag
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Dev. Environments
July 14, 1993 11:19 PM
To all, You might want to check out the product review of the new Symantec products in the August issue of MacTech Magazine. For more information on MacTech Magazine, see our online area by typing "GO MACTECHMAG". Thanks, Neil Ticktin Editor-in-Chief MacTech Magazine
THINK C
Message #131875
From:
Neil Ticktin/MacTech Mag
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 11:18 PM
Rich and Dave, You might want to check out the product review of the new Symantec products in the August issue of MacTech Magazine (formerly MacTutor). For more information on MacTech Magazine, see our online area by typing "GO MACTECHMAG". Thanks, Neil Ticktin Editor-in-Chief MacTech Magazine
From:
David Kynor
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 14, 1993 11:15 PM
Steve, Thanks for the info, I'll give it a try. – Dave
#AppMaker Resources
Message #131873
From:
David Kynor
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 14, 1993 11:14 PM
I have just started using AppMaker and am wondering if there are any dicey consequences of using ResEdit on the created resource files. Of course, I realize that the Appmaker code won't know about the new resources, but I'm primarily interested in spicy up the existing resources. Thanks for any…
From:
Burt Johnson
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 11:10 PM
Thanks — The client just gave me his disks and asked me to look into it more. I'll give your code a try! – Burt
From:
DAVID THOMAS CRAIG
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 9:19 PM
Burt: Why can't the original asm code be assembled by itself and then linked into the C program? This seems the easiest to me. — DAVID T CRAIG
From:
Brooks Bell
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 9:09 PM
Have to agree with your comments (and begin _really_ wondering what started this thread off before we all perverted it – nudging the user? huh?). No matter – the only thing I would add (or subtract) is that DOS/Windows won out not because it was cheaper and faster but simply…
From:
Brooks Bell
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 9:08 PM
There are a small number of vendors, usually very small outfits (often times just the author of the program). There just isn't enough Mac development activity out there to support larger firms (unless its a compiler, and even then its rough). DOS development was no doubt easier than Windows or…
From:
Richard Hong
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 8:16 PM
>> I guess we'll have to add Macs vs. Pcs to the taboo topic list, along with politics and religion…:-) Bill, Aw…politics is *fun* to argue! And I'm sure you wouldn't be surprised to learn that in addition to PCs, I'm a Rush Limbaugh fan… An affinity for dinosaurs? Rich
#How hard to convert?
Message #131853
From:
Richard Hong
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 8:14 PM
David, I agree. The Windows interface is app-centric, which is to say (IMO), task-centric. The Mac interface is clearly document centered. But in terms of using a computer (or anything), I tend to think in terms of tools, not objects. Rich
From:
Richard Hong
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 8:11 PM
Brooks, I have no doubt that you are correct that unfamiliarity will cause resentment in switching environments. However, when I've had to "cheat" (resort to buying toolkits rather than doing it myself), I've found that my best source has been shareware on the Mac (some quite good stuff — and…
From:
Richard Hong
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 8:08 PM
Rich, Thanks, I'll call them to see what they have. The lack of discounts is fine; at the PC places, because of the lower volume in programming tools, most discounts are more of a "token" variety rather than the deep discounts from list you see on apps. I'd rather pay…
How hard to convert?
Message #131850
From:
Richard Hong
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 8:07 PM
Chris, Thank you, I shall. Do you have an address for APDA? Rich
#Want Serius obj libs
Message #131846
From:
Al Heynneman
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Dev. Environments
July 14, 1993 7:09 PM
David, re: "Do you want to move to email and talk about the things you've done to date with Serius?" No need… as I just got Serius, and I haven't even finished the tutorial yet. I sent in the registration card, and am awaiting the DB objects. I'd really like…
#How hard to convert?
Message #131840
From:
Bill Harding
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 6:09 PM
Rich, I guess we'll have to add Macs vs. Pcs to the taboo topic list, along with politics and religion…:-) Bill
From:
John Carlsen
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 14, 1993 5:41 PM
Doug, Resorcerer sounds great! Thanks for the long description. > The demo's are pretty large, so we can send you a disk in the mail also. Please send the demo disk to me at: John Carlsen 2 Hawthorne Place – 14J Boston, MA 02114 Thanks, John
From:
Peter Marx
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 5:35 PM
Burt: The rewritten code is slower than the original, perhaps by a factor or 4 or 5 (I'm sure someone will tell you exactly how much, but I'm not normally into cycle-counting). Here's a more literal translation, into Think C 5, of the original: pascal OSErr CallTLPM(short tlCode, PMParamPtr pmParams,…
Should I be doing this?
Message #131836
From:
Peter Marx
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 5:35 PM
You mean "clear the high bit". You shouldn't clear the whole byte. Probably wouldn't matter, though. If your control has been drawn at least once, you should also be able to get the size by checking the cntrlRect field of the control record. Otherwise, your approach seems sound. You might…
From:
Brian Fitzgerald
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 4:26 PM
> How does one go about displaying text stored in a TEXT resource? > Got any sample Pascal code? Something like this: textH := GetResource( 'TEXT', resID ); HLock( textH ); SetRect( dispRect, 50, 50, 350, 150 ); TextBox( textH^, GetHandleSize( textH ), dispRect, teJustLeft ); HUnlock( textH ); ReleaseResource(…
Color Slider CDEF
Message #131830
From:
Jerry Goldstein
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 4:06 PM
Just discovered a bug in my color slider CDEF that I recently uploaded. I'm uploading a revised version, 1.0.1 as a complete package and a second file that contains ONLY the revised CDEF for those folks who already downloaded the complete package.
From:
Craig Prouse
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 3:59 PM
Pentium isn't living up to performance or yield expectations, while the 601 is exceeding expectations on both fronts. I don't doubt that Intel will manufacture a lower-power version of Pentium, but then what? What remains to be seen, and will be played out over the next couple of years, is…
From:
Craig Prouse
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 3:42 PM
Yes, I'm afraid you're mistaken. I've seen a Pentium cook a hot dog at 16W. No microprocessor has ever burned 85W, except that Z80 we plugged into line voltage in sophomore EE lab. And it didn't burn 85W for very long.
From:
Howard Oakley
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Dev. Environments
July 14, 1993 1:34 PM
Andrew, Answers AFAIK: 1. Yes, but pre-release is only really strategic products, which means major developers or really outstanding ideas which are sold well to them. Smaller folk (like us) will get a chance as the program grows, which I think means once they are shipping. 2. The current language…
From:
Robert S. Mah[OSB]
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 1:13 PM
Rich, ==> If you've looked at the PowerPC 601 chip's specs, you'll see that the Pentium is a much lower power chip, by far, than the 601 (i.e., 16 W for the Pentium versus 85 W for the 601)!
#TEXT Resource Display
Message #131813
From:
Ron Whatley
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 12:03 PM
How does one go about displaying text stored in a TEXT resource? Got any sample Pascal code? Thanks in advance, Ron
From:
Rich Parker
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 11:08 AM
Craig, "Actually, this will be an essential component of any Pentium-based subnotebook. The only technical challenge is board placement of the cooling tower for optimal heat dissipation." If you've looked at the PowerPC 601 chip's specs, you'll see that the Pentium is a much lower power chip, by far, than…
From:
Bill Goodman [Cyclos]
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 14, 1993 10:57 AM
"Would you mind comparing and contrasting Resorcerer to ResEdit?" Here are the top 2 reasons why I use Resorcerer: 1) ResEdit crashes frequently during use. Resorcerer has never crashed in 2 years of heavy use. 2) When ResEdit crashes, it often damages your resource file so it is unusable. If…
From:
Laurent Humbert
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Dev. Environments
July 14, 1993 6:37 AM
>>> Would you recommend DAL for Middleware, if you were using a DOS WIndows and MAC GUI….. Err, yes. I use it actually, with Sybase. I had a bad surprise, though: it is not possible to use multiple DAL cursors when connected to Sybase. Which means that scripts like this:…
Discipline
Message #131787
From:
George Franco
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 14, 1993 3:12 AM
Thanks, Gene. That makes things more clear.
#Pascal->asm->C
Message #131785
From:
Burt Johnson
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 14, 1993 2:28 AM
A friend is having a problem that I am unable to help with, so I promised to ask the combined genius here on CI$ and see if someone else knows. Since I do not know assembly (or at least haven't looked at it since 1980), I'm not really in a…
From:
Douglas McKenna
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 14, 1993 12:53 AM
How's that for starters? There's a bunch more, but it's late :). I have personally been working on Resorcerer (more than) full-time for about 5 years, and my company has been selling it direct to developers for about 3 years. Most of the Mac programs you see ads for are…
From:
Douglas McKenna
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 14, 1993 12:35 AM
* RR's Menu Editor lets you try out 'hmnu' resources, as well as hierarchical sets of menus. You can cut and paste arbitrary selections of menu items, for instance. * RR has a dedicated 'STR#' editor [it can open a 'STR#' with 30,000 strings in it in about 10 seconds…
From:
Douglas McKenna
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 14, 1993 12:12 AM
Steve – Okay, in 25 words or more…. 🙂 * Resorcerer [RR] is a supported product; ResEdit is just barely a "product" that would have either failed or gotten a lot better a long time ago had Apple been selling it for what a good resource editor is worth to…
#ResEdit & Popup Menus
Message #131759
From:
Steve Wagy
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 13, 1993 10:42 PM
Douglas, I am interested in Resorcerer but I know nothing of its capabilities. Would you mind comparing and contrasting Resorcerer to ResEdit? Thanks
From:
Rich Siegel
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 13, 1993 9:13 PM
[continued] capability for automated "seek and destroy" operations. ~ Built-in compare utility for determining and viewing the differences between any two text files. ~ Automatic linefeed translation for easy viewing and editing of files created by DOS and Unix~ systems. BBEdit also offers the following: ~ File size limited only…
#BBEdit Feature Overview
Message #131749
From:
Rich Siegel
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 13, 1993 9:13 PM
This is the excerpt from the BBEdit White Paper that I've been trying to upload. I'm using CIS Navigator now, so it should go through OK. If you have general technical or feature questions, please post them to the forum. If you have questions about pricing (including site licenses or…
From:
Brooks Bell
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 13, 1993 8:33 PM
Ha! While I certainly hope this is a major stumbling block for the evil empire, I don't put a lot of faith into Apple's marketing nostrums. Surely Intel has some scheme for notebooks besides the aging (and duplicated) 486 line. Seems like there has to be a future Pentium that…
#How hard to convert?
Message #131744
From:
Brooks Bell
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 13, 1993 8:32 PM
Richard: Best places for Mac tools (in my experience) are APDA and MacTech magazine. No, there aren't as many available as there are for Windows. I think this stems from the volume of corporate developers using Windows providing a larger market. As far as your friends who developed for Windows…
Mac Prog Text Editors
Message #131741
From:
Ken Broomfield
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 13, 1993 8:04 PM
Hmmmm… I should let you know I'm not an MPW expert by any means. Maybe an MPW-guru around here'll be more help than I. However, the problems you're describing don't sound familiar. Are you using an old version of MPW? Which compiler are you using? I know that when I've…
ResEdit & Popup Menus
Message #131735
From:
Gerald Striph
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 13, 1993 6:56 PM
I can't help you but I'm trying to find a copy of ResEdit for my Centris 610. It didn't come with the mac and it's not in the usual catologs…where can I get a copy…? Thanks… Jerry
#ODBC/MIddleware
Message #131729
From:
Tim Carroll
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Dev. Environments
July 13, 1993 6:00 PM
Would you recommend DAL for Middleware, if you were using a DOS WIndows and MAC GUI….. Thanks Tim
PopUp CNTL 31 items
Message #131723
From:
Joe Laffey
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 13, 1993 4:04 PM
Where did you find a demo of Resourcer?? Joe
How hard to convert?
Message #131722
From:
Joe Laffey
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 13, 1993 4:04 PM
>>In cars, a true "driving machine" would never have an automatic transmission. The analogy holds. A lot of us love our PCs because we can get under the hood when we need to, soup it up for raw power, etc. I remember when we were installing unauthorized crystals into the…
From:
Mike O'Connor/SYSOP
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Dev. Environments
July 13, 1993 3:43 PM
The Mac Hardware Forum GO MACHW section 7 is about Newton. Perhaps a thread on Newton Development would be OK here. In case it is, here is what I heard from two sources – Demos at Apple Developer Conference last May, and rumor messages I read on CompuServe. So, it's…
#Software Testing
Message #131718
From:
Alpharel-Mark Jungw
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 13, 1993 3:01 PM
Hi everyone, My company is currently looking for an automated testing tool for the Mac. Something that can record keystrokes, mouse movements and events to be used for some degree of automating software testing and debugging. If anyone has a experience or knowledge about a product like this I would…
From:
Craig Prouse
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· C and Pascal
July 13, 1993 2:52 PM
>> I agree that the development of a revolutionary battery is of utmost importance…maybe a very tiny nuclear reactor! Actually, this will be an essential component of any Pentium-based subnotebook. The only technical challenge is board placement of the cooling tower for optimal heat dissipation.
#Think C Compare Utility
Message #131713
From:
Steve Bushell
MAUG(R)/Macintosh Developers/Programmers Forum
· Tools/Debuggers
July 13, 1993 2:30 PM
"I am interested in comparing two folders full of files and receiving a list of differences between the files. "The compare utility provided with Think C seems to do what I want, except it it's default is to only compare 2 files. Does anyone know how to use the script…
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