ASOFT policy
14-Jun-94 15:50:24
Sb: #107471-ASOFT policy
Fm: Joe MacRae 76702,1302
To: Roger Danielsen 70323,3034
If you are referring to your messages in this thread, it's because we don't
really have any other section to put it (other than SYSOP). So where do you
think it should be ??? ….Pick a Message Section.
Your response to the thread was not specifically moved into section 0. The
thread was moved before 6:00 AM CDT which is 7:00 AM on the East Coast and 4:00
AM on the left coast. Your message wasn't posted until after 8:00 PM CDT, or 14
hours AFTER the message thread was moved.
The message thread was moved because of the responses it generated. I thought
that most of the members were reasonable adults on this forum, but the
responses to that "cry for help" (other than Gary's considered and tactful
reply) were the most childish things I've seen on this forum. Actually, in the
entire thread, there were only two messages that actually considered that the
original poster may be having some real trouble and just might be extremely
frustrated. Those two messages were the first one (Gary's) and the last one
(your's).
It would have been simpler and easier to just DELETE the dumb replies that the
thread generated. BUT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CENSORSHIP !!!! Moving messages into
section 0 or any other closed section doesn't prevent the sender, receiver or
other member with access to that section from reading those messages and
replying to them. You can reset your HMN (or message aging) and still see your
message in section 0 (if it hasn't scrolled by now). You can even write a reply
to that message and extend the thread. You just can't see the rest of the
thread without access to the section. And that's a lot different than just
DELETING the messages.
So if you consider limiting your access to the thread censorship then I guess
that it is. It's interesting that you compared the forum to a newspaper. Very
few see the relationship. CIS like a newspaper is a commercial service. It
ain't a free soap box for anyone to spout whatever they seem to think at the
time. Newspapers have huge staffs to determine what will be printed and what
won't be printed. Here we have a coupla sysops. We determine what gets
"printed" by deciding which section the message will appear, or which section
in which to move it if need be. So I guess you can say that we do censor what
is on the forum just like an editor censors what will be in the paper. Moving
messages is our way of making this decision. But it's one of only a few tools
we have to maintain the forum and message board. The ASOFT forum has not been
built on Flame Wars like some other forums on CIS. And it will not be (though
an occasional flame ain't bad for business…..<g>.)
That particular message and thread had accomplished exactly it's purpose. The
poster of the original message did get the answer he needed from Gary, and
leaving the entire thread in section 1 only asked for more responses like the
majority of the one's it did get. I deemed it prudent to remove the entire
thing, rather than having to check the forum every 15 minutes to catch any more
childish responses. Your message just followed along with the rest of the
thread. If it makes you feel any better, the original poster has collected the
entire thread (or at least those messages addressed to him, including the rash
ones). Wonder just how he feels right now ??? Bet he has a VERY favorable
impression of this forum. Maybe I should have really CENSORED that thread and
removed those "extra" messages ???
As far as I know, I'm now the only sysop on this forum that is maintaining the
message base. I try to get everything, but sometimes I goof. I appologize for
any flames you may have received, but on the other hand, there ain't any way to
prevent it without CENSORING the messages and DELETING them from the board. The
only thing I could have done with the flames at you is the same thing I did
with the thread in question, move it into a separate and closed section. It
wouldn't have prevented the flame, nor would it have prevented you from
receiving it. All it would have done it remove it from public view.
So the interest isn't sudden. It's been ongoing ever since I built this forum
with JP some four years ago. I move somewhere between 30 and 50 messages a day
on this forum. (I'll be moving 22 of them with the posting of this message to
you.) Most of them are simply posted in the wrong section. But occasionally
there is the little incident like we just went through. Guess that's to keep me
on my toes………..<g>.