CompuServe Messages

Phil: The Group Presentations went better than I expected, mostly because I didn't know WHAT to expect. The 3 groups responded well, and I have sent documents to Milt showing what they came up with, with the limited time to prepare, and the limited knowledge of the tools. One group prepared a really neat graphic, using Paintbrush, AutoCAD, and MS Draw (in WinWord) to detail graphically the differences between the 4 OLE commands on the AutoCAD Edit pull-down (Copy Image, Copy Vectors, Copy Embed, and Copy Link). I'm assuming Milt will distribute, but I can send you the WinWord file(s) if you want. A suggestion for the schedule is to not attempt the Group Presentation prep time on Tuesday, as we ran out of time with your exercises and the Theme Project. We decided to prepare Wednesday and Thursday afternoons, then present on Friday morning, since the DCL exercise got removed from the schedule on Friday. Worked well for us. OLE, Clipboard and the Cardfile topics were very successful, cause everybody could easily see the application to their day-to-day work, and could adjust their teaching methods accordingy. DDE was a little tougher for folks to grasp, though. Excel did OK, but nobody here had ever used it before (or ANY spreadsheet, for that matter), so they felt a little overwhelmed. Most saw it as a programmer's avenue to develop more applications on, which I believe it is. I have marked up a copy of each of the materials with edits, and mailed to Milt. He'll have to decide what to try to get done, and what will have to wait for the final printed version as Learning Resource Series. Overall, the session went well. Tuesday was a real eye-opener for some folks, as they hadn't even seen Windows (except for Solitaire), so many were getting lost in Window "panes" (pun intended!). We found real quick that our machines will in fact handle 3 simultaneous AutoCAD sessions, as folks kept starting another one instead of switching back to their first session. I found the Task Manager very helpful for showing what was going on and switching to other applications. Alt-Tab was useful, but hard for some to remember. By Wednesday, we were "Windowing" along happily, and everybody had learned a whole new group of terms: icon, minimize, maximize, iconize, swap file, wallpaper, desktop, control panel, etc. A full report is on it's way to Milt, along with completed evaluations. -KLF Does anybody know where Milt IS? I keep calling his house, leaving messages on the answering machine, but I get no call-backs… I really need to talk to ya, Milt!