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#CrossPC

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#50883From: Calvin H. DunnFeb 29, 1992 3:59 PM
Saw an ad from the makers of CrossDos (a great product) that they had a new product called CrossPC that runs IBM programs. Anyone seen this yet and if so is it any good? Does it run slow, real slow, or brother this thing is s l o wwwwww. Thanks
#50980From: Gerry ZeitlinMar 1, 1992 4:30 PM
Calvin: I spoke to the mfr of CrossDos and was told that on an unaccelerated Amiga it runs at 1/5 the speed of an XT. Not a souped-up XT, either. They were candid enough to recommend that I NOT buy it. Gerry Zeitlin / Lee Vining, CA / (619)647-6438 / gmz@netcom.com
#50983From: Jonathan BlackwellMar 1, 1992 5:30 PM
What about IBeM? That's a shareware (or maybe commercial…can't remember) program which is also supposed to make your Amiga into an XT-compatible machine. I heard that it, too, is pathetically slow; slow enough that on an A3000 25MHz it will only run at a tick over typical XT speed. Now here's something interesting: my roommate has a Mac, and he purchased a program called SoftPC. On his 16MHz 68020-equipped Mac II, SoftPC runs IBM software at the approximate speed of a '286. No kidding, I've seen it. So what does this mean? I guess it means that, if you really, REALLY want IBM compatibility on your Amiga, your best bet would be hardware. -Jeff
#51008From: Michael GerardMar 1, 1992 10:43 PM
FYI SOFTPC AT for the MAC cost about as much as a used XT bridegboard and isn't as compatible. IBeM or CROSS-PC (commercial version of IBeM) is a very low cost alternative.
#51111From: Gerry ZeitlinMar 2, 1992 10:53 PM
Yes, Jeff, one of the boards on the market now would be the only way I'd consider. Actually, it's not so much that I want IBM compatibility on my Amiga as that I want something more than my floppy-based laptop for running MS-Dos software. As I'm unemployed right now, I can't consider purchasing a whole new computer or even a bridgeboard-type thing. I would have been happy to go with Cross-Dos (or whatever it's called) for $59, but when the vendor warned me off, I took heed. Gerry Zeitlin / Lee Vining, CA / (619)647-6438 / gmz@netcom.com
#51264From: Gayle Lee FairlessMar 3, 1992 11:21 PM
By the time you get employed, used BB's may be quite cheap especially if and when C= comes out with that 386 BB.
#51392From: Gerry ZeitlinMar 4, 1992 8:25 PM
By the time I get employed, used CRAYS may be quite cheap! Seriously, someone is nibbling right now for a small software development project, with more likely to follow if it works out well. I've been reluctant to consider purchasing used boards for the Amiga, because I am uncertain as to where I would stand with the vendor, support, etc. Didn't know that Commodore is working on a 386 BB. Will stay tuned. Thanks. Gerry Zeitlin / Lee Vining, CA / (619)647-6438 / gmz@netcom.com
#51328From: Ron LegroMar 4, 1992 8:26 AM
There are people who have run SoftPC under the AMAX II unit on an Amiga. I wouldn't know about speed, though.
#51466From: Richard BeausangMar 5, 1992 2:31 AM
Soft PC is pretty fast on my my A3000 AMaxII. – Richard
#51548From: Jonathan BlackwellMar 5, 1992 7:34 PM
An emulator emulating something else. Neat. Pointless…why buy an Amiga in the first place?
#51839From: Richard BeausangMar 8, 1992 5:33 AM
Not so pointless really! Buy an Amiga in the first place because it's the best machine! Too bad not everyone knows this. Because not everyone knows this, inferior machines become the de facto standard resulting in two things. 1) An abundance of all kinds of software available for the lesser platforms that is not available on the better platform. 2) A great likelyhood that one's workplace will be predominantly inhabited by these lower order things. In my case, my work environment is populated with Mac heads therefore for work compatability I need a Mac. I might add that my Amiga 3000 with AMax is a better Mac than most of those hideous little boxes we have at work. I ]t's a sorry state of affairs but as far as tax accounting software goes, there's nothing on the Amiga that compares with products available on the Mac. What's even more sorry is that there are certain types of software available in abundance for msdos machines that is scarce even for Macs. For example, I'm in education and I'm responsible for test and survey scoring. Have you seen any software for the Amiga that does scoring with drivers for bubble sheet scanners? All of the software available from the agencies that want these tests can only be run on msdos machines. Frankly, I'm amazed that my Amiga handles all of this so gracefully. Being able to operate as so many different things adds to it rather than takes away from it. I can be operating these different systems and still be using my Amiga. It sure beats having the clutter of a number of boxes and I can think of these other platforms as being subsets of the Amiga. What's more, because of this expandability, I'm real close to having the powers that be convinced to buy an Amiga at work. I don't think they would even be considering it if it weren't able to assume multiple personalities. Why a Toaster box is o.k. and an Amiga isn't….. I just don't know. It does irk me a bit that the Amiga is the Rodney Dangerfield of the computer world. But [ MORE ]
#51840From: Richard BeausangMar 8, 1992 5:33 AM
[ continuation ] I've found that there are some hidden benefits. When I'm using a Mac, there's often some numbskull standing over my shoulder telling me to select this or that, pull down such and such a menu, or hit some key combination…. even when I'm the one that introduced them to computers to begin with! They just can't shutup. Some kind of compulsive need to tell you how you should be doing what you're doing. Firing up an Amiga shuts most of them up pretty fast. – Richard
#51722From: pat beaulieuMar 7, 1992 9:41 AM
How do you transfer files to your Soft PC under AMAX!? – Pat, Whapping from Quebec City!
#51841From: Richard BeausangMar 8, 1992 5:34 AM
That's a good one. I had a little difficulty at first with this myself. Fortunately, I don't have to do it too often as my Soft PC usage is limited to a few specific tasks and all the necessary files are on my Soft PC hard drive. First off, I have a syquest removable drive, which I highly recommend and especially to anyone using Amax, with several cartridges formatted as Mac drives. On one of these Mac drives, I have Soft PC which sets up a Dos Hard drive. My Dos hard drive has about 20 megs which is enough for my PC use. There may be a way of hooking up an external PC drive or of getting the Mac external disk drive to read PC disks. I'm not really sure on that score since I found three other ways of doing file transfers. My first method was with a modem dialed to a friends PC while in Mac emulation. You can download directly to the Mac Hard drive. You can also use CrossDos to read the MSDos formatted disk on the Amiga and transfer the files to Amiga formatted disks, then fire up Amax and use the file transfer utility to copy the files from the amiga disk to the Mac. You could also go from Amiga disks to Mac disks with MAC2DOS. The other method I used was to hook up a Mac at work to a PC with Maclink plus. Hope this helps. – Richard