#CrossPC
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Saw an ad from the makers of CrossDos (a great product) that they had a new
product called CrossPC that runs IBM programs. Anyone seen this yet and if
so is it any good? Does it run slow, real slow, or brother this thing is s
l o wwwwww. Thanks
Calvin:
I spoke to the mfr of CrossDos and was told that on an unaccelerated Amiga
it runs at 1/5 the speed of an XT. Not a souped-up XT, either.
They were candid enough to recommend that I NOT buy it.
Gerry Zeitlin / Lee Vining, CA / (619)647-6438 / gmz@netcom.com
What about IBeM? That's a shareware (or maybe commercial…can't remember)
program which is also supposed to make your Amiga into an XT-compatible
machine. I heard that it, too, is pathetically slow; slow enough that on
an A3000 25MHz it will only run at a tick over typical XT speed. Now
here's something interesting: my roommate has a Mac, and he purchased a
program called SoftPC. On his 16MHz 68020-equipped Mac II, SoftPC runs IBM
software at the approximate speed of a '286. No kidding, I've seen it. So
what does this mean? I guess it means that, if you really, REALLY want IBM
compatibility on your Amiga, your best bet would be hardware. -Jeff
FYI SOFTPC AT for the MAC cost about as much as a used XT bridegboard and
isn't as compatible. IBeM or CROSS-PC (commercial version of IBeM) is a
very low cost alternative.
Yes, Jeff, one of the boards on the market now would be the only way I'd
consider.
Actually, it's not so much that I want IBM compatibility on my Amiga as
that I want something more than my floppy-based laptop for running MS-Dos
software. As I'm unemployed right now, I can't consider purchasing a whole
new computer or even a bridgeboard-type thing. I would have been happy to
go with Cross-Dos (or whatever it's called) for $59, but when the vendor
warned me off, I took heed.
Gerry Zeitlin / Lee Vining, CA / (619)647-6438 / gmz@netcom.com
By the time you get employed, used BB's may be quite cheap
especially if and when C= comes out with that 386 BB.
By the time I get employed, used CRAYS may be quite cheap!
Seriously, someone is nibbling right now for a small software
development project, with more likely to follow if it works out well.
I've been reluctant to consider purchasing used boards for the Amiga,
because I am uncertain as to where I would stand with the vendor, support,
etc.
Didn't know that Commodore is working on a 386 BB. Will stay tuned.
Thanks.
Gerry Zeitlin / Lee Vining, CA / (619)647-6438 / gmz@netcom.com
There are people who have run SoftPC under the AMAX II unit on an Amiga. I
wouldn't know about speed, though.
Soft PC is pretty fast on my my A3000 AMaxII.
– Richard
An emulator emulating something else. Neat. Pointless…why buy an Amiga
in the first place?
Not so pointless really! Buy an Amiga in the first place because it's
the best machine! Too bad not everyone knows this.
Because not everyone knows this, inferior machines become the de facto
standard resulting in two things. 1) An abundance of all kinds of software
available for the lesser platforms that is not available on the better
platform. 2) A great likelyhood that one's workplace will be predominantly
inhabited by these lower order things.
In my case, my work environment is populated with Mac heads therefore
for work compatability I need a Mac. I might add that my Amiga 3000 with
AMax is a better Mac than most of those hideous little boxes we have at
work. I
]t's a sorry state of affairs but as far as tax accounting software
goes, there's nothing on the Amiga that compares with products available on
the Mac.
What's even more sorry is that there are certain types of software
available in abundance for msdos machines that is scarce even for Macs. For
example, I'm in education and I'm responsible for test and survey scoring.
Have you seen any software for the Amiga that does scoring with drivers for
bubble sheet scanners? All of the software available from the agencies that
want these tests can only be run on msdos machines.
Frankly, I'm amazed that my Amiga handles all of this so gracefully.
Being able to operate as so many different things adds to it rather than
takes away from it. I can be operating these different systems and still be
using my Amiga. It sure beats having the clutter of a number of boxes and I
can think of these other platforms as being subsets of the Amiga. What's
more, because of this expandability, I'm real close to having the powers
that be convinced to buy an Amiga at work. I don't think they would even be
considering it if it weren't able to assume multiple personalities.
Why a Toaster box is o.k. and an Amiga isn't….. I just don't know. It
does irk me a bit that the Amiga is the Rodney Dangerfield of the computer
world. But
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I've found that there are some hidden benefits. When I'm using a Mac,
there's often some numbskull standing over my shoulder telling me to select
this or that, pull down such and such a menu, or hit some key
combination…. even when I'm the one that introduced them to computers to
begin with! They just can't shutup. Some kind of compulsive need to tell
you how you should be doing what you're doing. Firing up an Amiga shuts
most of them up pretty fast.
– Richard
How do you transfer files to your Soft PC under AMAX!?
– Pat, Whapping from Quebec City!
That's a good one. I had a little difficulty at first with this myself.
Fortunately, I don't have to do it too often as my Soft PC usage is limited
to a few specific tasks and all the necessary files are on my Soft PC hard
drive. First off, I have a syquest removable drive, which I highly
recommend and especially to anyone using Amax, with several cartridges
formatted as Mac drives. On one of these Mac drives, I have Soft PC which
sets up a Dos Hard drive. My Dos hard drive has about 20 megs which is
enough for my PC use.
There may be a way of hooking up an external PC drive or of getting the
Mac external disk drive to read PC disks. I'm not really sure on that score
since I found three other ways of doing file transfers. My first method was
with a modem dialed to a friends PC while in Mac emulation. You can
download directly to the Mac Hard drive. You can also use CrossDos to read
the MSDos formatted disk on the Amiga and transfer the files to Amiga
formatted disks, then fire up Amax and use the file transfer utility to
copy the files from the amiga disk to the Mac. You could also go from Amiga
disks to Mac disks with MAC2DOS. The other method I used was to hook up a
Mac at work to a PC with Maclink plus.
Hope this helps.
– Richard