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pagestream&garamond

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#52697From: ARLENMar 16, 1992 3:00 PM
Can I get some help with the garamont font on 2.2? I can't seem to get the special characters, quotes, etc. to print to my postscript printer. I went to the store to show them the problem but there 2.2 worked fine. I thought I copied all the new font files OK and I updated the files and the PSfonts directory, yet I must not have something right. I would appreciate either some help or the use of a pen to manually write in these caracters!! Thanks Arlen
#52772From: Soft-Logik Tech SupportMar 17, 1992 1:26 AM
The store probably wasn't using a PostScript printer. The PS data files for Garamond do not contain the special characters and so on. What happens, is that CG fonts cannot be printed to PS printers. They just don't work. Times and Triumvirate are already in the printer so PgS just has to point the code to the correct font. For Garamond, we had to cheat and create a PS downloadable file. Unfortunately, the PS downloadable doesn't contain the full character set. You're not doing anything wrong, it's the fault of the PS file. It's high up on the list of things to be looked at. Sorry for all the confusion (and frustration) you must have experienced. The manual shows the available characters in an appendix. Michael Soft-Logik Tech Support
#52785From: ARLENMar 17, 1992 11:34 AM
Mike, thanks for the reply. The new program is great and I'm looking forward to the hot links addition. The store was using the exact same printer as mine (NEC 2 90) but perhaps they were using the HP emulation or something. Anyway, take care. Ar
#53080From: Mar 20, 1992 3:21 PM
Speaking about available characters: Being a foreigner it is VERY important to me, that the various fonts include national characters (in my case Danish/Norwegian characters 159, 191, 197, 198, 229, 230). These characters are fully supported by the Amiga, but only fully in the CS Times and CS Triumvirate fonts and not in the remaining 8 standard PgS fonts. This was rather frustrating to discover, when I purchased PgS a year or so ago, and I immediately faxed you a message about it, but as far as I can tell no action was ever taken to remedy the situation. These letters are not exotic, seldomly used letters, and not having access to them have made painfully clear to me, how often they are used in my native language. I am considering purchasing the Font Plus Pack and the Fonts Pack 1, but the file INTRO.TXT in the libraries only mentions the font names. Would it be possible for you to upload a file supplementing INTRO.TXT (which also may need updating) describing for each of the fonts which characters are missing from the fonts? Please, note that some of the standard fonts contain screen displayable characters that are blank, when printed. – J0RGEN
#53082From: Michael GerardMar 20, 1992 3:52 PM
I second that request. Michael ….from the north coast
#53105From: Soft-Logik Tech SupportMar 20, 1992 10:41 PM
First of all, the eight PgS format fonts which are included with PageStream are intended mainly for display use, so they do not have complete character sets. They will not be updated. We are trying to concentrate on our newer, higher end fonts like CS Times and so on. If you have a PostScript printer, you will get the standard PostScript characters printed out if you buy the Plus Pack. These include all the characters you mention. The PostScript character set can be found in any PostScript book if you're interested. If you do not have a PostScript printer, the Plus Pack fonts all have complete Soft-Logik character sets. Font Packs 1: I'm not sure what characters each individual font has. The majority have complete character sets I know, but I haven't tested all of them. I assume you have a PS printer because you say you're not getting all the CS Times characters printing out. Well, that's because those screen fonts are made for CS Times, which does not actually print on a PS printer. CS Times has all those characters, but Times in your printer doesn't. Therefore, they won't print. Nothing we can do about that. Sorry. Michael Soft-Logik Tech Support
#53149From: Mar 21, 1992 3:26 PM
Thanks, The non-printing characters were actually discovered using the SL fonts and a matrix printer, but just now, I don't recall which fonts. I understand, that you concentrate on the CG fonts, but then I wonder why the Garamond Antiqua also is far from complete. Pagestream is a fine program, but if SL want to penetrate the European market, too, the presence of national characters is an absolute necessity for a serious DTP program. – J0RGEN
#53177From: Soft-Logik Tech SupportMar 22, 1992 1:22 AM
Garamond Antiqua is only incomplete to PostScript. This is because Compugraphic font technology (at least current CG technology), cannot print to PostScript. It is incompatible. 100% incompatible. There is no way to print CG fonts to PS printers. What we do is create a Type 3 style font (a PostScript font) using AGFA's CG font (with a font converter) to create a PostScript downloadable. And then we tell PgS to download the PS font every time you try to print the CG font. Only thing is, most Type 1 to CG font converters suck. I just bought AllType for the PC. It produces crap. I talked to people that do high-end PC font conversion for CG fonts and they agree, that these programs suck. They take each font and fix its errors manually. Sorry, but we haven't done this for Garamond. We'll try to improve it in the future. PageStream is sold in Europe by Update Editions in France. They sell their own fonts aimed at the European market. They also sell our 600 Type 1 fonts which ALL have full character sets. We have the best foreign character support of any Amiga program, and we dominate the European market. I realize that some of the SL format fonts which come with PageStream are inadequate for European languages, but these are PD fonts which we include with the permission of their authors. We did not create them. The fonts you pay for in PageStream are the 10 Compugraphic fonts. Michael Soft-Logik Tech Support