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#41510From: Jack L. ChalkerFeb 28, 1993 10:27 PM
Well, anti-smoking has gotten to be a religious crusade here and is responsible for everything from all deaths from all causes to flat feet. It IS a bad and harmful habit that most governments pushed until about 15 years ago, but the Crusade has given the majority who no longer can beat up on all the usual minorities a target that can't fight back. This is not to say that a smoke-free society won't be a healthier one, but they'll blame smoking on things for a century after the last smoker is interred in the ground. It's easier than looking at automobile pollution, industrial pollution, and all the rest of the expensive and complex health hazards in our society. On the other hand, if they ultimately attain the "smoke free" status, it is absolutely inevitable that we'll get the "If we can put a man on the Moon…" scenario. I'm reminded of the last scene in the original INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS when Kevin McCarthy stands fruitlessly in speeding traffic screaming "You're next! You're next!"
#41562From: Adrian Godfrey [D]Mar 1, 1993 4:30 PM
Jack, Whether it's a bad habit or not is not really the point. The point is that ordinary citizens are not being left to make their own decision. The crusaders tried it once with Prohibition…. Adrian
#41630From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 2, 1993 5:06 AM
Yes, and, as I say, the worst thing about the anti-smoking campaign will be when they succeed, and at the rate they're going they will. It will be held up as a model to force people into all sorts of other "desirable" behavioral models. What's next? Anyone who's overweight? That's coming. The list is long….
#41818From: Adrian Godfrey [D]Mar 3, 1993 9:00 PM
Jack, And when everybody acts like everyone else, looks like everyone else etc, what kind of an existence will that be? Adrian
#41872From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 4, 1993 5:13 AM
Incredibly dull. Fortunately, I doubt if there's much chance of that. The communists couldn't do it in fifty years, so it's unlikely that anybody else will really manage to do so. There is a point at which it all just falls apart, and there is never a system that doesn't also breed people who are good at beating it. Virtually all of my books in fact are about setting up conditions where it's impossible to beat the system and then showing how to do it. Not anarchistic, just optimistic. On the other hand, the capacity of groups and do-gooders and pc types to attempt Orwellian methods in the name of Truth, Justice, and Freedom is omnipresent. The one flaw that's shown up in Orwell, though, is heartening. At the National Security Agency barely 50 miles from here they can and do intercept just about every single broadcast of anything by any medium on the face of the earth and their codebreaking abilities are amazing. The net result? Information overload. So much comes in that there is no way to make sense of or sort it out. One programmer I know who worked for them said that the best they can do when some nasty international incident happens is go back and sort through the muck and see how it developed! But spotting it in time to do something about it–forget it. We have all the answers, but the ability to frame the QUESTION is beyond us!
#41909From: J. RylanderMar 4, 1993 3:39 PM
Jack, NSA's 50 miles from you…..my next door neighbor. Cable TV is a must here because the "interference" is too strong to pick up even the strongest local channels, though no one claims that's the reason….. and I'm going to worry about smoking….NOT. Jim
#41950From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 4, 1993 9:29 PM
You're next to Ft. Meade, huh? I'm near Camp David but there's a lot less going through the aether here. I always wondered what you might wind up going through you if you lived close to an NSA. And the EPA won't let you lead-line your house any more. Hmmm….
#41961From: J. RylanderMar 4, 1993 10:16 PM
Lead Lined house…hmmmm, you sure I can't……I'm not paranoid, I just know they're reading the emissions from my PC as I type this note {grin}. Of course I could move….I hear there's a great offer on a house….nothing around for miles…Oh, it's just beneath BWI's takeoff pattern. Cheers, Jim
#42002From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 5, 1993 4:24 AM
Well, up here in northwest Carroll County the only thing that's the problem is the pungent smell of fertilizer on the fields in the spring and fall. Everybody always asks me why I'm living out here in the middle of nowhere, and I tell 'em, well, virtually no crime (1 murder per year county average, none unsolved since 1954–the six resident state troopers are the whole police department), lower property taxes, decent roads and schools, and the fact that I'm living comfortably in a nice $400,000 house by Montgomery County standards which I paid $155,000 for. And the only noise is the occasional helicopter going to or from Camp David….
#42095From: J. RylanderMar 6, 1993 8:01 AM
Cigarettes and coffee……All this talk is leading me to the best way to spend a quiet, relaxing weekend……Fresh Coffee, a Cigarette, and a good book……Well, I'm off to the bookstore. One of the best bookstores I've ever seen is in Carmel, CA….A combination Coffee shop (smoking allowed!) and bookstore…….See ya all Monday {g} Jim
#42181From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 7, 1993 5:54 AM
Smoking allowed? In a bookstore? In CARMEL? Will wonders never cease! We can't even smoke in malls here, let alone stores. As someone who makes his living writing books, how can I argue with you?
#41924From: Adrian Godfrey [D]Mar 4, 1993 6:00 PM
Jack, I can tell you're an author<g>. My innocent little one-liners seem to provoke a lot of response<bg>. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the replies, but it's probably in my blood that I write relatively short messages myself. Best Adrian