#HP4m paper & collor
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Hi Kelly,
Question others may answer and/or be interested in: Do you recomend using
those "color" strips/paste ons in the HP4m that are advertized in Paper
Direrct? Whats the top weight paper you would go with? What about
invisible Avery labels…safe?
I've had a few mutiple (about 6 sheets) paper grabs with a resulting jam.
Any trick to avoiding that? Pray ;^}?
Gracia
Gracia,
I have no experience with color paste ons for laser jet printing. I do
remember reading about them in HPPeriph and don't remember anybody saying
they had a bad time with them. I beleive the biggest problem with using
them is it involves passing the same sheet of paper thru the printer more
than once, so HP is worried about the possibility of some toner coming off
the paper as it goes thru the mechanisms inside. If you let the paper sit
a few hours there should be no problem with the toner coming off.
I have run 30 pound paper thru my LJ3P last summer with no problems. With
the LJ4, it would probably be a good idea to run heavier paper from the MP
tray so you can eliminate the bend in the paper path from the PC tray.
Invisible Avery labels – what's that <grin> So how do you read the
address if it's invisible! Just kidding. Must be a clear backing
instead of the white paper, eh. Remember, it must be able to withstand
400 degrees F for 1/10 second. If Avery says it is laser safe, then there
should be no problem.
Since going thru the first 50 sheets of paper, I think there have been two
or three double feeds. Some of the early ones were up to quadruple feeds.
From what I remember reading, do not fan the paper. Make sure it is fully
to the back of the PC tray. If you have any kind of humidity, you are
more likely to have multiple feed problems (IMHO), just like the curl
problem.
Happy printing!
73, Kelly
Kelly,
Very funny…yes invisible backing…looks great, a friend sent me a
*Kelly* green card <g> & envelope with that kind of address label…it was
smashing…you really had to look to see that it wasn't printed directly
on the paper.
You say don't fan, Ric Fischer says fan…I'll try both, see which wins.
Gracia
Gracia,
So what idiot named a shade of green after me??? It isn't exactly my
favorite color. Must be one of those crazy irish ancestors…
One of the HP people over in HPPeripher specifically said not to fan the
paper for the LJ4. Can't remember the reasoning any more.
73, Kelly
Kelly,
I was told once by a copier tech that paper fanning can lead to static
build up that can make the sheets stick together.
Andrew.
Andrew,
Your copier tech apparently had it backwards. Or so the various copier
tech's we've had at work say. You fan the papers to eliminiate static, not
create it.
Don
Don,
I'm not at all surprised !!
Andrew.
kelly,
I should pop over to the HPeripher but I got VERY tired of the bitching
over "Courier". Courier & Ives might be interesting, but a thin Courier
did hack it ;^}.
Gracia
Gracia,
I know what you mean concerning HPPERIPH. It breaks me up to read posts
from people threatening to return their LaserJet 4s because the internal
Courier is too light. 8^) I like the new Courier myself, but I didn't
spend nearly $2k on the printer to admire (or complain about) its Courier
font. Now if you wanna talk Caslon or Optima….
-Dave (via AutoPilot)
Gracia,
Some time ago when I worked for a place the printed over 300,000 bulk
rate letters (printed on a big noisy printer) and some 100,000 first-class
letters (printed on a laser printer), I learned the importance of
'fanning' the paper.
1. Hold the stack of paper by an end and slowly fan out the opposite
end, making sure that nearly every page is separated from its neighbors.
This allows air to get in between pages which acts as a lubricant while
the printer tries to grab some paper.
2. Reverse the stack of paper and do the same thing to the other end.
3. When putting paper into tray, put the most recently fanned end in
first.
4. Don't overfeed tray, too much paper will weigh things down and by
the time you get to the bottom of the tray, the air will have been pushed
out again. Even though our trays at that company could hold 250 sheets,
we fed it 50 sheets at a time.
Doing all this made for a radical decrease in paper jams – and made my
job much easier and less frustrating. Give it a try.
Ric Fischer – SoftWood Tech Support
Phoenix, Arizona, USA – (602) 431-9151
Hi Ric,
Thanks for info. Kelly says don't fan paper. I'll try both systems, though
faning seems the way to go. I'm naughty and use different kinds of paper
in the same stack..may be my problem.
Gracia
Gracia,
You must also remember that paper has a natural grain and 'curl' to a sheet. If
the manufacturer supplies info on which is the 'top' side of the sheet, feed it
through that way.
Heavy paper will also gum up the inside with of the laser with toner that
won't stick to the page, and sometimes has more fibers that will come loose
inside. (Avoide a heavy texture paper, the toner in the 'valley' of the texture
won't be pressed correctly and will just fall off). You should clean the inside
of the printer frequently. I use proper alcohol for cleaning away the toner,
and then vacumm the inside (carefully) to get the paper fibers and dust out.
Performance really improves.
On my NEC SilentWriter LC 890, I have put a 'ton' of 80 lb cover stock through
it. Made all my Wedding Invitations this way. I too have never tried the color
tagging material that goes through the printer, but used LetraSets Colour Tag.
This uses a little iron type device that you apply after you have printed. Once
you get the hang of it it doesn't take long to do a 100 invitations…and the
responce I have got back over the past couple weeks, people think they look
great.
Philip Laitar, Manager
Also,
I recommend fanning the pages…this goes for laser printers as well as
photocopiers.
Philip Laitar, Manager