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#Phar Lap 5.0

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#37726From: Gus GrubbaMar 18, 1993 6:37 AM
Hi Phil, Any words on the new Phar Lap 5.0? According to the add it supports Microsoft's C/C++. I was about to order the MetaWare High C when I saw the add in Programmer's Paradise (I got really, really sick of Watcom). I've been writting most of my IPAS in assembly because it's easier and faster to debug (using Phar Lap's 386debug). I don't have any other way to debug Watcom's C. But whenever I need havy duty floating point, it's a pain… Try some differential equations for some astrophysics problems in assembly. It's like digesting a 73 Chevy Nova (raw)… Gus (needs megatons of maalox) Grubba
#37789From: PhilD [ADESK]Mar 18, 1993 6:26 PM
No word on phar lap 5.0. I haven't seen it myself. Microsoft is about to release a 32-bit C compiler, I hear tell. As for debugging IPAS with Watcom, I understand that phar lap does make a source level debugger, but it's an extra product (more $$$); as you state, the standard phar lap kit includes only an assembly level debugger. You might try giving Watcom a call and nagging them about their debugger with 3DS IPAS; they were supposed to be working on a TRAP file for their debugger with our IPAS kit. Haven't seen it yet, either.
#37793From: Gus GrubbaMar 18, 1993 7:14 PM
>> You might try giving Watcom a call and nagging them about their debugger with 3DS IPAS; >> they were supposed to be working on a TRAP file for their debugger with our IPAS kit. >> Haven't seen it yet, either. I tried that already. The answer I received was that there is no "time frame" for such thing. That's what put be off Watcom. I have the Microsoft 32-bit C/C++ compiler. It generates code for the Windows NT.
#37873From: PhilD [ADESK]Mar 19, 1993 11:53 AM
I'll see if I can get someone of some "authority" over here to call Watcom and see what the deal is.
#37812From: Jack Bayt [Vibrant]Mar 18, 1993 11:16 PM
Gus – I've been playing with Phar Lap 5.0 for a while now (ok about a week and a half)<g>. Ran into a number of small bugs with trying to link more than 100 modules (we link around 900). Called up, left a message, and was called back in about 20 minutes. Sent me a 5.1 beta right then and there over the modem. Good response. Fixed that problem right up. Still have a small bug with the Assembler with IF contructs, but they claim that have a fix for it also. Basically, they are going to ship 5.1 in a couple of weeks. I would wait for it. Yes, Phar Lap is the Dos extender in the new visual C++ (dos version of compiler). MASM v6.1 is using Phar Lap also. It's about time Microsoft gave up on their own internal dos extender – pure garbage. All in all, I think the new version of Phar Lap is a winner. Jack Bayt – Vibrant
#37820From: Gus GrubbaMar 19, 1993 12:47 AM
Great news. Yes, all I can say about Phar Lap are good things. They gave me a heck of explanation when I first tried to debug things (you started it, remember?). I can't say the same about Watcom though…
#38093From: Jack Bayt [Vibrant]Mar 21, 1993 11:15 PM
Actaully, the problem that I thought was in the assembler was actaully a user error (me). So now that I have the updated lib and link utilities, everything is working rock solid. Jack Bayt – Vibrant