#Phar Lap 5.0
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Hi Phil,
Any words on the new Phar Lap 5.0? According to the add it supports Microsoft's
C/C++. I was about to order the MetaWare High C when I saw the add in
Programmer's Paradise (I got really, really sick of Watcom).
I've been writting most of my IPAS in assembly because it's easier and faster
to debug (using Phar Lap's 386debug). I don't have any other way to debug
Watcom's C. But whenever I need havy duty floating point, it's a pain… Try
some differential equations for some astrophysics problems in assembly. It's
like digesting a 73 Chevy Nova (raw)…
Gus (needs megatons of maalox) Grubba
No word on phar lap 5.0. I haven't seen it myself. Microsoft is about to
release a 32-bit C compiler, I hear tell.
As for debugging IPAS with Watcom, I understand that phar lap does make a
source level debugger, but it's an extra product (more $$$); as you state, the
standard phar lap kit includes only an assembly level debugger.
You might try giving Watcom a call and nagging them about their debugger with
3DS IPAS; they were supposed to be working on a TRAP file for their debugger
with our IPAS kit. Haven't seen it yet, either.
>> You might try giving Watcom a call and nagging them about their debugger
with 3DS IPAS; >> they were supposed to be working on a TRAP file for their
debugger with our IPAS kit. >> Haven't seen it yet, either.
I tried that already. The answer I received was that there is no "time frame"
for such thing. That's what put be off Watcom.
I have the Microsoft 32-bit C/C++ compiler. It generates code for the Windows
NT.
I'll see if I can get someone of some "authority" over here to call Watcom and
see what the deal is.
Gus –
I've been playing with Phar Lap 5.0 for a while now (ok about a week and a
half)<g>. Ran into a number of small bugs with trying to link more than 100
modules (we link around 900). Called up, left a message, and was called back
in about 20 minutes. Sent me a 5.1 beta right then and there over the modem.
Good response. Fixed that problem right up.
Still have a small bug with the Assembler with IF contructs, but they claim
that have a fix for it also.
Basically, they are going to ship 5.1 in a couple of weeks. I would wait for
it.
Yes, Phar Lap is the Dos extender in the new visual C++ (dos version of
compiler). MASM v6.1 is using Phar Lap also. It's about time Microsoft gave
up on their own internal dos extender – pure garbage.
All in all, I think the new version of Phar Lap is a winner.
Jack Bayt – Vibrant
Great news. Yes, all I can say about Phar Lap are good things. They gave me a
heck of explanation when I first tried to debug things (you started it,
remember?). I can't say the same about Watcom though…
Actaully, the problem that I thought was in the assembler was actaully a user
error (me). So now that I have the updated lib and link utilities, everything
is working rock solid.
Jack Bayt – Vibrant