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#Which Encyclopedia?

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#43583From: James ColburnMar 20, 1993 9:14 PM
Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions on the current crop of CD-ROM encyclopedias? I have the choice of Groliers @ $55, Comptons Multimedia @ $80 or Comptons Interactive @ $149… Is the Interactice that much better? I more interested in written content and still pictures than in moving demos and sound clips. Thanks in advance for any help.
#43600From: Jim ClementsMar 21, 1993 4:29 AM
James, if you are most interested in intelligent text and are looking for a more "senior level" encyclopedia, I would go with the Grolier. Cheers!
#43612From: Rich Bowers/OPAMar 21, 1993 10:46 AM
James: Because all the CDROM products are based on their print counterparts, it might be helpful to look at the grade-level for which the writing was done. Compton's is elementary to junior high-level, Grolier is a little older – junior to lower senior high level. Microsoft's new Encarta (to be ready Real Soon Now?) is based on Funk & Wagnalls (with heavy modification) which was originally written for a general adult audience. The way they have executed their interfaces, video sequences et al. comes down (IMHO) to a matter of style. Hope this helps! Best – Rich
#43675From: David B. KellyMar 21, 1993 10:05 PM
Rich: Do know what the holdup is with Encarta. I have some older info. that says it was to be released the first of this year? From what I have read this is the application that I bought a CD rom drive for.
#43696From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 22, 1993 4:25 AM
(A) Remember that press releases of not yet existant products are often full of promises of "must have" stuff that might or might not be possible to be delivered. (B) Sometimes promised features are a lot harder to get in and get past beta testing (meaning they don't keep crashing the system) than they look when promised. Word is that they have kept adding features and updates to Encarta and now all they need is for a bullet-proof beta to pass. Until it does, they aren't going to release it. MicroSoft has enough problems at the moment without releasing a buggy encyclopedia into a competitive market.
#43717From: Rich Bowers/OPAMar 22, 1993 7:12 AM
David: I don't know what the issues are are, although the last I heard was a target release date at the first of April, and "intermedia" may be the occasion of that release. While I am often a harsh critic of Microsoft, I am willing to give this group some rope. There is more than the encyclopedia at stake here. They are proving out some very advanced schemes for production, interface design, and more. In this, the encyclopedia is the proving ground for what they hope will be an entirely new class of publications. The team doing this work is a class act, and after over three years, they certainly rate a few more months to make sure it is right. We'll see, but it may be a significant new product, not just another encyclopedia. Best – Rich
#43728From: Ron WodaskiMar 22, 1993 9:12 AM
I like your characterization of Encarta as "a significant new product, not just another encyclopedia." I have seen a pre-release version, and it is a wonderful piece of work on a variety of different levels. The underlying text informatin is really solid, coverage of topics and subjects is first rate if you are doing research, the number, quality, and relevance of images, animations, sounds, etc. is also very good. In all, this is a first-class product, and well worth the wait. Ron
#43762From: James ColburnMar 22, 1993 6:48 PM
Always try to remember that Microsoft invented the phrase "Vaporware." They are notorius for announcing a product's due date in order to kill the competition and then taking their own sweet time about bringing ti to market.
#43780From: TomKMar 22, 1993 9:29 PM
>Always try to remember that Microsoft invented the phrase "Vaporware." >They are notorius for announcing a product's due date in order to kill >the competition and then taking their own sweet time about bringing ti >to market. Which explains why Comptons has suddently released an "upgrade" for $149 list.
#43820From: Rich Bowers/OPAMar 23, 1993 5:28 AM
Thomas: PMJI, but don't forget the encyclopedia business has always placed a lot of faith in the "Annual" to which you subscribe after you buy the original set of books. It's an important part of their business model. This is a major point of consideration (among publishers as well as consumers!), that when a software publisher issues a new version, it's an "upgrade." But when a content publisher issues a new version, it's a new "edition," with new info. Just another distinction between the two enterprises. Best – Rich Bowers
#44158From: Mike PritchardMar 26, 1993 4:40 AM
I believe Intel invented the term vaporware (or certainly used it more than Microsoft!) They put out an ad for one of the early Above boards that stated something like "so advanced it even runs vaporware" showing (I think) OS/2. Bill Gates got upset, called Intel, and the ad got pulled. Mike
#43727From: Ron WodaskiMar 22, 1993 9:12 AM
I've seen a pre-release version of Microsoft's Encarta, and everyone in the family prefers it to the ones you mention. That includes, myself, my wife, and two kids (ages 11 and 13) who regularly use CD-ROM based encycopedias for their homework. After using Encarta, in fact, my daughter started getting better grades! She loves it. Ron
#43795From: Alex WalterMar 22, 1993 11:48 PM
Ron . . . Have your seen Encyclopedia Britanica (sp?) on CD-ROM? I understand it exists and may be the best of the bunch. – Alex @ 22:44 Mtn Time –
#43834From: Ron WodaskiMar 23, 1993 7:39 AM
No, I have not. I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Ron
#43779From: TomKMar 22, 1993 9:29 PM
>Is the Interactice that much better? I bought the Comptons Interactive only to discover the "Multimedia" version later. As it turns out (this according to a tech support person at Comptons), the Interactive is an update of the Multimedia version. The Multimedia version is NOT MPC. I was told the Multimedia "is pretty much a dead product at this point". Just repeating what I was told.
#43930From: Narahiko InoueMar 24, 1993 6:24 AM
Dear James: Encyclopedias for $55 and $80? Where can I get those prices? Aren't their list prices $395?
#44204From: James ColburnMar 26, 1993 6:56 PM
Maybe so, but at a recent local computer show here in the D.C. area I was offered the Grolier for $55, the Comptons (non-MPC) for $80 and the Comptons inter-active for $149. Check your local paper for a show/swap meet.