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#43155From: Rich Bowers/OPAMar 15, 1993 9:55 PM
Kathy: Right you are (mostly)! However, with all respect: >>since each of the items under discussion has its own unique aspects, aren't any comparisons, even the $$ vs time, a bit irrelevant?<< Then why does everyone keep spouting the Philips party line comparing CD-I to CD audio? You're right, it isn't relevant, and that's my point. Philips is hoist on its own petard! And I'm afraid this: >>some strengths that CD-ROM doesn't have (inexpensive players, relatively easy interleaving of audio, video, graphics & programming)<< — I don't get at all. First, CD-I _is_ CDROM, just a very limited flavor. Second, CDROM drives – even top of the line – are no more than the street price for CD-I players. Third, I _know_ how easy it is to develop for CD-I, which is to say, NOT! >>SEGA is an interesting case — can a game machine really have that much impact on this market?<< A million of anything makes an impact – the market is defined by people who want to buy your content. If they happen to own game machines, then Sega will have an impact. It is no less byzantine a development system or closed-ended a delivery system than CD-I, and has generated more 3 or 4 times more sales in 4 months than Philips has been able to gin up since 1986. I don't have anything against the format, but I am concerned that my friends who want to get into the publishing business don't lose their limited investments speculating on a product about which no one can seem to get straight info. And, simply, the world is not the kind of place – nor is the business the kind of enterprise – that Philips would like it to be. And they can pour another billion $$ into it, and it still won't be. Just keep your eyes open and your powder dry! Best – Rich Bowers
#43196From: Peter VerkleyMar 16, 1993 11:49 AM
Right on Rich Philips and good marketing are incompatible, it seems, they were eg the only Western Company that supported MSX, developed their own Video2000 system that collapsed even earlier than Betamax, while superior technically to both Betamax _AND_ VHS. However, they also built the compact cassette and developed the audio CD. And make VERY GOOD glow-bulbs. IMHO, CD-I without CD-ROM compatibility & the fact that you cannot connect it up to a PC or Mac or any computer, makes it a dead duck. Even Commodore, with CDTV has relented and admitted that CDTV is an Amiga with CD-I type CD-rom player. Poor Philips, and the poor unemployed in Eindhoven. I used to live there at one time. Black peter
#43237From: Katherine CochraneMar 16, 1993 10:03 PM
Rich, I've reread what you've written, and what I've written, and I can't find any untruth in either of it, just differences in interpretation and in what we think the facts will do to the future of our industry. I respect and appreciate your (professional and personal) interest in trying to keep people from making bad investments in what you perceive as limited and limiting formats, but IMO breaking out of standards is healthy, and is the surest way to push the technology to the next level. I guess we just have to agree to disagree on this topic. Highest regards, Kathy
#43272From: Rich Bowers/OPAMar 17, 1993 7:08 AM
Kathy: The great thing about a business like this is that we can both be right and wrong. It is, after all, a relativistic universe. The only scary thing (to me) is when people stop asking questions. Take care – Rich Bowers