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#VR/DOOM games

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#91691From: John N. JordanMar 16, 1994 2:39 PM
(I changed the thread name, and area) I agree that Doom is the best pseudo VR around (for P.O.V. stuff). I'm not much into flight sims, but I've heard that Falcon is good. I'm anxiously awaiting Mechwarrior II. It is a sim of sorts, with an instant action play, with up to 6 mech's (robot type things) in the action. Two of the six could be people. You can play "my team vs. your team" or "our team vs. "the computer team" You can choose your mech you want, and it's weapons configuration. I believe there are 15 mechs in the stock game to choose from, and there will probably be an add-on disk for others. It will support modem play and serial play. I'm not sure about network play though. I'm hoping that they will develop the network capabilities, with the ability to have more than 2 players.. Either way, the graphics are great, and I understand it to be competitive in graphics/play with the various Battletech based VR places around, except for the # of players. Definately a noteworthy distraction. 🙂 Good VR + other players/participants is really fun. I'd love to run & develop a VR recreation center. Has anyone played Nettrek? (Star Trek based Internet game) I'm sure it's very interesting too, but the graphics seem pretty weak. I'd suggest, to anyone who hasn't played to download doom1.2, (and the sersetup replacement for modem play) in the Gamers/Action area, and play with your workmates or friends. Especially if you have a sound card, or an available multiuser network. It gives a good idea on where VR is going. (the graphics and play) It's a scary game, but fun to see your friend running around in front of you. You can even chat, make plans, etc. 🙂 I won't buy the full version though, I think it's too "dark". I've talked to the head of id games about the content but he doesn't seem to have a problem with it's gory and occultic theme. Oh well, that's his choice, but I'd love to know what sociologists and psychiatrists are saying about it. It's pretty potent. I'd love to see all that creativity directed a bit more responsibly. I'm doing a paper on gaming, and it's effects but have not found any significant research done on it. Well, enough rambling, back to wireframe VR.. <g> Hmm.. how does the Autodesk VR stand up? Has anyone used it? Would it be possible to implement a VR game/world for multiusers with it? What kind of graphics hardware is required? How does it compare to Doom in realism? Whew! – this is finally the end of the message.. <g> JNJ
#91793From: Richard J. SmithMar 16, 1994 10:43 PM
The content is fine with me, its just a game. I heard that congress was giving sega a hard time about some of their games, this really ticks me off, I think WE have bigger problems to deal with then the "effects" of video games on people. Besides I don't think they have any business telling me or anybody what kind of video games I can use. Next they will want my CD rom drives and computers because I can use the Tehc. to make such games and graphics and have too much information.
#91882From: SyndesisMar 17, 1994 9:42 AM
As Frank Zappa tried to explain to Tipper Gore, if songs could shape people's minds, then we'd all certainly love each other, right?
#91959From: Richard J. SmithMar 17, 1994 3:15 PM
YES, art is a reflection of society and does not shape it .
#92376From: John N. JordanMar 19, 1994 1:27 PM
Richard: hmm, well I think there's a bit more to things than "it's just a game" but I do understand the statement, and what's behind it. I do think it's silly to crack down so hard on Sega, especially when there's harder core stuff like Doom out there. I guess they haven't seen it yet. Anyways, it's a touchy area. I understand the concern of games like Mortal Kombat and young kids, but I also have found little conclusions on the whole "effect of media on society" bit. Personally, I believe it does have a play on things. Otherwise there wouldn't be soo many people paying megabucks for :30 commercials. As an artist, I believe art is dead if it's without power, and impact. If one were to tell DaVinci, Picasso, or the like that their art did nothing to you, they would be crushed. Art is made as an expression. Expressions are made to be recieved. Art affects society which will, in turn, make more.
#92401From: John TissavaryMar 19, 1994 5:23 PM
While I, too, can't stand any self righteous, opportunistic, pennyloafer wearin', breifcase totin', brill cream smearin', Volvo drivin', church on sunday – whorehouse on monday goin', 3 martini drinkin' anti smokeing legislatin', sex censoring pro NRA legislatin' ********'s telling us what we can and can't do/see/etc… (long, deep breath <g>), I think they're just trying to get the games industry to self impose a rating system. I don't really have a problem with that, if it'll get the government off our creative backs. The only drawback I can see to this is that it'll obviously cut into the profits of the games industry, because 10 year old jonnie's mom isn't going to buy him the latest Mortal Wombat with dismemberment-o-rama because it'll have a Tipper Sticker on it <g>.
#92546From: ROBERT RITGERMar 21, 1994 1:08 AM
>>>While I, too, can't stand any self righteous, opportunistic, pennyloafer wearin', breifcase totin', brill cream smearin', Volvo drivin', church on sunday – whorehouse on monday goin', 3 martini drinkin' anti smokeing legislatin', sex censoring pro NRA legislatin'<<< Yeeeeehaaaaaa!! This kind of prose is what I really like about this forum! :-] Do you have access to the article on Frank Zappa in the latest Multimedia Magazine? If not, send me your fax number and I'll send you a copy of two pages of great reading. Ever listen to Mojo Nixon and his take on similar topics?
#92559From: John TissavaryMar 21, 1994 1:51 AM
>>send me your fax number<< Since I've only got one line (can you believe it?) here I've got to babysit faxes. I'm headed for NAB so I'll be out of town for a couple of days… maybe I'll pick up the mag and check it out. If not, I'll email you when I get back and you can fax 'em to me – thanks! >>Mojo Nixon<< Although I didn't get into him as deeply as many others, I do really appreciate a good dose of Nixon every so often. The guy's got a great sense of humor, is right on socially (IMHO), and packs a mean groove. Don Henley Must Die! It's rumored (a friend told me) that Don came up and sang that song with Mojo one time… heard anything about that?
#92621From: ROBERT RITGERMar 21, 1994 12:59 PM
My brush with greatness was slamming, jamming and dancing like a maniac with Mojo at a Beat Farmers gig at the NYC China Club a bunch of years ago. A month later I heard a record with Mojo and Skid Roper, realized I was partying with a celebrity and didn't know it. Never heard of an actual duet with Henley on the classic Don Henley Must Die! but I would have loved to have witnessed that one. I've seen Mojo several times since my first encounter and have always had a great time. Stuffin' Martha's Muffin and Burn Down the Malls are probably my favorite tunes of his but I probably own his complete discography. Have a great time at NAB!
#92992From: SyndesisMar 23, 1994 12:03 PM
Uh oh, looks like it's time to e-mail my electronic copy of the Rant of the SubGenius. 🙂 I second the Mojie-Wojie, too.