#Autodesk Confirms NT 3ds
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>>I suspect [Hires QFX -NT] will be shown at Siggraph<<
It was at SIGGraph last year and NAB before that and maybe . . .
I love Ron Scott's software, but the wait is killing me!
Every couple of months for the last year and a half, I've surveyed the market
for a core collection of NT programs that would make that a viable graphics
platform. Hires QFX has been dangling out there the whole time. Now that we
have an idea when the most important program of the bunch (3DS) will appear, I
have a time frame and can be more patient waiting for the other programs to
come on board|:^)
-Paul
Something Just Hit me when you mentioned Ron Scott, I stopped by at thier booth
at Siggraph last year and talked about the various software versions and
platforms…someone mentioned that they were thinking of porting to NT and I
think I just blew it off at the time as an operating system I'd probably never
see running on any of my machines….what a difference a few months makes! <BG>
Murph'
Murph'
>>what a difference a few months makes!
Amen.
While I like Hires QFX, no one program is worth switching platforms for -unless
its 3DS.<G> I'd been hoping that Autodesk would follow through on their
'commitment' to NT, but last SIGGraph was the first time I'd seen a nucleus of
programs ( ER, HQFX, RIO ) running under NT, and I took heart. It's been a
long wait and the next 10 (?) months will seem like forever. This summer we
will have an AVID Media Suite Pro running under NT ( or maybe just win32) using
a modified Targa2000. That will be our real first entry into the NT market.
DOS is dead, long live NT!
-Paul 'tired of apologizing for living in a DOS world' Lempke
My big bit of excitment is waiting for the final version of the NT version of
the RenderGarden and what kind of chipsets we'll be able to use…DEC ALPHA
would be _NICE_! <BG>
Murph'
>>DEC ALPHA would be _NICE_! <BG>
Alpha, MIPS, P6, PowerPC -very nice.
So far, It seems that most DEC Alphas have been pressed into service as file
servers -What a waste of megaflops!<G>
-Paul
>>> It seems that most DEC Alphas have been pressed into service as file
servers -What a waste of megaflops!<G><<
Not for Long! <BG>
Murph'
"-Paul 'tired of apologizing for living in a DOS world' Lempke"
No need to, Paul. I still can see why people try to justify their software. As
soon as you are getting cool results and your clients buy the thing for big
dollars, why to apologize?
🙂
ana /kraz images
ana,
>>why to apologize?
Because, DOS is primitive, DOS is slow, DOS lacks standardized support for
interprogram communication, networking, robust file sharing /locking,
multitasking . . .
DOS forces developers to use non-standard extensions like pharlap.
DOS forces developers to work harder to do less.
DOS doesn't fit people and the way people work.
DOS created a huge market for Macs and Windows and Warp . . .
DOS is like smearing red dirt on cave walls to make paintings instead of
learning to make sable brushes, refine linseed oil and stretch canvas.
DOS is a product behind its time. I apologize because there is no excuse for
it anymore.
Thanks for asking : )
Paul -Rising Star Graphics
Yeah, but 3DS runs on DOS. HiRes runs on DOS. TIE Fighter runs on DOS <bg>.
Only when 3DS gets to NT, then and only then, I will trash DOS. I know it is a
silly little tiny OS, but it has work for years and still works for me (because
3DS runs on it). Windoze doesn't work for me. NT will. DOS do. What do you find
in common between NT and DOS? The one and only tool I will run on them: Again,
3DS. (yes, I am 3DS centered, ok? 🙂 I hate DOS for the same reasons and more.
DOS is the past and will continue to be part of people's future (not me) for
many years (specially for those waiting for Windows 96). DOS is what has/will
kept many people in a nonstandard world, with a deficient GUI for past years
and years to come. I want it to be trashed ASAP, althought you won't see that
too soon IMHO. It will be in _my_ trash by Siggraph this year, but there are a
few months between now and Siggraph. Again, the only _reason_ I am still using
Intel based computers runs on DOS (note: reason=3DS) What can I do? I am not
ashamed of that 🙂
ana /krazy images
>>3DS runs on DOS
Yeah, I guess we could get into really heated agreement on this.
We all use DOS because 3DS runs under DOS, except that it doesn't -it uses
pharlap, which makes it just palatable enough. 8 or 9 years ago it was
perfectly reasonable to pick an operating system to run just one program. If
you only use one program or only one program on a particular machine, then it
is reasonable -but, I think we have gotten past that. There are a lot of good
tools out there and ideally you should be able to use them in a tightly
integrated environment. Not everything should have to be an IPAS to work with
3DS. That is forcing 3DS to be your ersatz operating system; it shouldn't have
to do that.
so, when I say 'apologizing for living in a DOS world' I mean something like:
Q: Why don't you use a modern operating system that will let you be more
productive?
A: Sorry, 3DS doesn't run under NT. 🙂
-Paul
Paul,
>> It was at SiGGraph last year and NAB before that …
I should have said shown for release. I think he was actually working on it two
Siggraphs ago, but it wasn't important because everything else was DOS or
Windows.
John
John,
HiresQFX: All we need is a core group of tools like 3DS, HQFX, and Elastic
Reality running NT to make a viable system. By the time 3DS is out it should
have some good company, then we can consider some non-Intel platforms! I'm
counting on Hires QFX to be there; it has always been a good match for 3DS.
Applauding your taste and discrimination,
Paul -Rising Star Graphics
>> Applauding your taste and discrimination <<
Why thankyou very much Paul! I've always like HQFX alot; fast and powerful,
and have wondered why it wasn't a more popular paint package.
>> All we need is a core group of tools like 3DS, HQFX, and Elastic Reality
running on NT to make a viable system. <<
Yes and its happening. I spoke with the Elastic Reality folks a few months ago
and NT was in the works.
Another very interesting addition to this software line-up will be Bravado by
D/Vision, which promises to be a NLE with Hardware independence supporting
amoung others, the Ill Pro, T2000 along and their own propietary board. And
I'll add Photoshop which because of its plug-ins is really something.
Very exciting times indeed!
John
>>Bravado by D/Vision
John,
I like the folks at TouchVision -they are local and have even been a customer
of ours. I play basketball in the alley with their former head programmer
whenever the temp. is over 50 deg., but we never bought into their product
because of the hardware limitations. I am very glad to see them moving away
from the DVE (a standard made before its time -sort of like MS-DOS). We are
very involved with AVID on the Mac side, so I'm sure that will be our NT &
T2000 based NLE of choice on the PC -but hey, if they have something to keep
our Matrox user's happy . . .
-Paul
>> Avid on the Mac side, so I'm sure that will be our NT & T200 based NLE of
choice on the PC… <<
Very interesting! The most recent word I'd heard on this topic was that Avid
was going SGI. The people who I know who are involved with it on the Mac side,
haven't mentioned NT with regard to AVID at all. Very curious. I thank you for
enlightening me. This is more than a little significant.
On an unrelated note…
I believe I remember you saying that you liked the Intel boards with the Ill
Pro. I tried installing mine on one of my P 90's and the board wouldn't be
recognised. I triple checked that it was seated properly. Procheck ran but that
was it. I also tried it on a standard 486/66 and it worked fine. It had been
running it on an EISA 486. Is there some trick to making it work with the
Intel? I have a revision 10 bios.
Thanks, it would be nice if I didn't have to call Matrox direct. <g>
John
>> I love Ron Scott's software, but the wait is killing me! <<
The wait may be over soon. A pre-release version is available if you give them
a call.
____kevin
>>pre-release version is available
Thanks, as soon as I finish setting up this NT system I'll give them a call.
-Paul