CompuServe Thread

DOS Command Line for Win

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#96738From: John EllisApr 12, 1994 3:09 PM
Apparently there are several applications out now that enable you to do a DOS command line through Windows, including one by Phar Lap which I'm sure was designed with Programmers in mind. PC-Tools for Windows as well as the DOS version also has this feature. However Praxim does seem to have some very intelligent features. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I will certainly look into it. -JE (Now if we can only get Windows with a stable memory management scheme <g>)
#96785From: John TissavaryApr 12, 1994 6:23 PM
>>Now if we can only get Windows with a stable memory management scheme<< Ya right! <g>. But that'll take all the adventure and mystery out of windows! <g,d,&r) John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
#96796From: John EllisApr 12, 1994 8:29 PM
>> But that'll take all the adventure and mystery out of windows! << Now that's a great attitude! Unfortuneately, I've been spoiled by 3DS whose adventure and mystery is much more to my liking. 🙂 -JE
#96855From: Fred W. HeidingsfelderApr 13, 1994 8:28 AM
John, <<(Now if we can only get Windows with a stable memory management scheme <g>)>> Maybe within Chicago, Daytona or Cairo, with three shots who could miss. Okay, Okay, enough harping on Gary. <BG> Fred
#96876From: John EllisApr 13, 1994 10:15 AM
>> Maybe within Chicago, Daytona or Cairo… << I'm sorry Fred but I totally missed your point/humor especially the part about Gary. I'm usually pretty good at abstracts but this one is over my head. <g> -JE
#96949From: Fred W. HeidingsfelderApr 13, 1994 4:28 PM
John, Sorry, the city names are the next names for Windows, Chicago is the next release of Windows, which will not have to be run on DOS. Daytona will be the next release of Windows NT, and should be out soon. Ciaro will be the next generation of Win NT and is expected in early '95. The Gary I was referring to is Gary Gates, the guy we made a billionaire<G>. The use of Gary was a bad choice on this forum. );^{ Sorry for the confusion. Fred
#96959From: John EllisApr 13, 1994 6:40 PM
Fred, I didn't know they'd named the releases after cities. I guess they figure that at least which ever city they mention will be a market. <g> As for the Billionaire, I thought his name was Bill Gates not Gary Gates. As in "Bill"-ionaire Gates. O.K. so one stupid joke deserves another. <G> BTW I just got the new Phar Lap for Windows Demo and it works as advertised. Almost 3 times the price though. Its pretty slick though. -JE
#97091From: SyndesisApr 14, 1994 10:30 AM
What's PharLap for Windows?
#97104From: John EllisApr 14, 1994 11:13 AM
John, Pharlap for Windows should actually be called DOS for Windows as it provides a stable DOS environment for working in Windows amoung other things. Basically its a shell for launching Windows apps with an emphasis on full DOS in Windows support. No floating windows which for me is a big plus. They have a demo version which you can obtain by calling 1-800-292-9622
#97159From: Fred W. HeidingsfelderApr 14, 1994 4:47 PM
John, You know I questioned myself on the Gates name for quite a while. I must know a Gary Gates, of course, you are right it is Bill. I must be aging faster then I think. <g> <<I guess they figure that at least which ever city they mention will be a market. <g> >> That might be part of the philosophy, but Cairo(?), is that Illinois or Eygpt. The next names will be Cleveland and Boise, you would think they would choose NYC of LA, and really grab a big share. <G> <<Pharlap for Windows>> Do you know if this will work with WinNT? Not everything will. Over all NT works for me, but I wish they would get some more apps that are specific to the system. It seems alot of the ports are waiting for the others to go first or maybe they are waiting for Chicago. Either way, if you don't know maybe Gus will pipe in as he seems to keep up on NT. Just remembered the phone number in your other message, so I called and got the Demo. I'll let you know. Fred
#97184From: John EllisApr 14, 1994 8:42 PM
Fred, Phar Lap FrontRunner is apparently only designed for Windows. I guess they figured NT didn't need it. I don't follow Microsoft's naming scheme. Somehow that doesn't really suprise me. I imagine it is Cairo Illinois but then why would they back track from Dayonta to Cleveland to Boise. Next it'll be Annaplis or Atlanta. <g> (Because they're secretly planning to drop Windows. 🙂 I just learned the specs on the P6 today, due out early next year. 250 MIPS I guess at that speed you could run 3DS under Windows and it would still be twice as fast as a P5. Due out just in time for R4. Autodesk has a lot of clout don't you think. <G> -JE
#97239From: Fred W. HeidingsfelderApr 15, 1994 5:37 AM
John, <<I just learned the specs on the P6 today, due out early next year. 250 MIPS I guess at that speed you could run 3DS under Windows and it would still be twice as fast as a P5. >> How many MIPS were the Mainframes running at ten years ago? This industry is unbelieveable. We may be the first generation to see our childhood fantasies come to life. Dick Tracey wristwatches, Lost in Space (that poor cosmonaut), TV Walls, automated kitchens (ala Jetsons) these things are already here or just up ahead. Amazing! Just look at Ed Kellerman's house. 🙂 Well, Frontrunner is on its way, so I'll give it a shot under NT. Who knows it may be one of those querks that works and I'll be able to do everything from one boot. <NOT> Fred
#97244From: John EllisApr 15, 1994 6:23 AM
Fred, >> We may be the first generation to see our childhood fantasies come to life… << Well my grandmother, who has since passed away several years ago, was born in 1890 and in 1969 she watched a man walk on the moon on T.V. Something that twenty year old's today (a generation) only know from news reels. The point being, I don't know whether we're moving forward, sideways or backward. But we've had tremendous advances in the hardware side of computers. The real question it seems to me is how to assimilate the tremendous amount of data being generated, (notice I didn't use the word information) which seems totally unmanageable in its current state. I think this is the biggest challenge for the next century. As an example, try reading a day's worth of Internet. <g> On another note, isn't it interesting that this generation (twenty year old's) have grown up with Star Trek and are psychologically prepared to meet aliens from other worlds, while at the same time the space shuttles are not capable of geo-synchronous orbit. Most curious world we live in. <g> It took about a week to get the Phar Lap Frontrunner, hope it works for you. -JE
#97339From: Fred W. HeidingsfelderApr 15, 1994 4:47 PM
John, Good points, all. <<The real question it seems to me is how to assimilate the tremendous amount of data being generated, (notice I didn't use the word information) which seems totally unmanageable in its current state. I think this is the biggest challenge for the next century. As an example, try reading a day's worth of Internet. <g> >> I tend to use the "C" (catch-up) key code alot. I find the 'Net' to be rather borish as compared to this cyberspace haven. This forum seems to be alot more focused then the newsgroups. I need only point to the recent message about 3DS bashing. BTW did you order your copy of the Cserve CD? What will that hold? <<On another note, isn't it interesting that this generation (twenty year old's) have grown up with Star Trek and are psychologically prepared to meet aliens from other worlds, while at the same time the space shuttles are not capable of geo-synchronous orbit. Most curious world we live in. <g> >> My daughters (9 and 7 years old) seem to understand and embrace STNG with no hesitation except for the frightening aspects of intergalatical exploration. They also find the "Wormhole" in DS9 to be fathomable. But at the same time they no little about the Space Shuttles. This is probably my fault. (:-( On my cable system (TCI), when a shuttle goes up they have 24 hours a day coverage, with a feed from NASA. At times it is boring with a graphic of the shuttle orbiting the earth, but when the astronauts are doing something they show you a live feed on the screen. I marvel at this! When they walked on the moon, you didn't see it for quite some time, can't remember the delay, they might of had to wait to develop the film <G>, but it wasn't spontaneous. Now we can watch,as well as the dreaded Russians, the astronauts as they work, including all of the blemishes. All in a days work. Hey who knows, we may meet on the promenade at Jupiter for the '27 Siggraph. Won't 3D rides be a bore? Here's to you from my 486/50 soon to be a 786/2000. Fred
#97355From: John EllisApr 15, 1994 6:20 PM
Fred, Very intresting observations. I agree about the "Net", but there's a lot of information going throught it. 3DS Bashing, BAH! Only by idiots that don't know what they're talking about. Nobody I know or have ever heard of that bought 3DS didn't like it. I'm sure there's a few out there and some people have gone on to Wavefront, but the number is very small, as opposed to say Topas which many many people have bailed out on. O.K. enough is enough! I haven't ordered a copy of Cserve CD. Should be interesting though. -JE
#97346From: John TissavaryApr 15, 1994 5:13 PM
>>On another note, isn't it interesting that this generation (twenty year old's) have grown up with Star Trek and are psychologically prepared to meet aliens from other worlds, while at the same time the space shuttles are not capable of geo-synchronous orbit. Most curious world we live in<< That is classic! John Tissavary (LUNA cie)