Novell Connection ?
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Hi all,
One of our video production team guys wants access to the HP Paintjet
XL 300 for printing colour jackets on video cassettes, but this printer sits on
an Ethernet 10bT network, as Novell Queue server.
He is using an AMIGA 2000 which performs quite well as a standalone
computer but he wants more…
My question is can he connect to Novell.. or can he submit jobs to the
remote printer over the Ethernet backbone which currently runs IPX and TCP/IP.
I'm only a lowly DOS/OS2 PC operator and you wouldnt expect me to know
this would you now.
Thanks – whatever happens…
db.
Yes he can. He will need
— Commodore's A2065 Ethernet card. The following Companies advertise
it:
Software Hut — 1-800-93-AMIGA
Computer Shopping Network — 1-615-577-5100
Safe Harbor — 1-800-544-6599
This card is primarily a 10base2 card, but might have an AUI port. If
so, you'll need a 10baseT transceiver. If not, I don't know, depends
on whether or not your concentrator has the capability to connect to
10base2.
— Novell's Macintosh Name Space. This comes standard with NW 3.11, I
don't know about 2.x. If you're not using Netware 3.11, you should
be, it's nice.
— Oxxi's Novell Client Software. I believe it's either $199 or $99 for
a single user version.
Good luck, and please let me know how well it works….
// Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
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A2065 has an AUI port (so I don't know how it is "primarily a 10base2
card").
> A2065 has an AUI port (so I don't know how it is "primarily a 10base2
> card").
Well, is the AUI port it's only port? I remember it being advertised as a
"thin net" (aka. 10base2) card when it first came out. Heck, I could be
wrong, it certainly wouldn't be the first time…
// Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
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Thin net usually refers to coaxial cabling and 10BT is usually twisted
pair or RJ45. There aren't any Amiga cards available in the US that
support that type of networking natively.
-Jonathan
A2065 has both.
Brian:
Just thought you should know that the A2065 card DOES have an AUI port.
It's funny, I just bought an ethernet card for an AT&T 3b1, and it only
has an AUI port, and you wouldn't believe the trouble I had explaining to
supposedly 'computer literate' salespeople what it was I was looking for!
(a 10base2 transceiver) I got prices varying from $55.00 thru $150.00 for
new ones, and one person here on CIS (who also has a 3b1) has used ones
for $29.95 as well.
The question that I wonder is if 10baseT that much cheaper to run cables
for that it can justify spending an additional 50-150 per node for the
10baseT transceivers?
// -Mike Schiller
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Yes. Thinnet cable is dramatically cheaper and easier to work with than
thicknet cable. 10baseT cable is even cheaper, but requires an expensive
hub.
Mike,
Most 10BaseT implementations have the transceivers built in, especially in
the PC world.
//Jonathan,
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It's not. 10baseT can actually become more expensive than thinnet. But in
some cases it may be worth the extra cost. The star configuration makes
cable troubleshooting much easier. There is no need for cable termination,
since the card and hub/concentrator take care of that.
On a strict cost comparison, 10base2 (thin net) often is cheaper, but I
speak from experience when I say it's a pain to troubleshoot. I've got one
building that I'm responsible for that is ideal for 10baseT. It was of
course wired with thin net cable. And I spend at least one day a month up
there because some idiot PARTIALLY disconnects his network cable. This of
course kills the ENTIRE building.
// Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
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Have you seen those fancy trouble shooter boxes that you connect to the
wire and it tells you how far away the wire ends/shorts. I could imagine
that something like that (along with knowing the topology of the wiring in
the building could save a bundle in lost development time…
Oxxi sells Novell client software for the Amiga or you can get TCP/IP for
the Amiga from Commodore and do it that way. Either way you will need the
A2065 ethernet adapter card.
Goin' AP
…..Mark Sterling
There is Novell client software available for the Amiga. Check in the
AmigaVendor forum under OXXI, they make the software…
-Jonathan
David,
The easiest way to get the Amiga to print (and use the network for other
functions) is to get an Ethernet card for the Amiga, and the ACS software
from Oxxi, who you can contact in AMIGAVEN.
There are a few problems with this approach, however. First, you will
need have the Mac namespace loaded on the server, which will increase your
memory requirements…so if memory is marginal, you will need to upgrade
the server. This is probably not the case, however.
Secondly, I have yet to hear of any 10BaseT cards for the Amiga, which
means that you will need to get a transceiver for the Ethernet card. Not
a big deal, but additional expense.
Lastly, Commodore brand Ethernet cards are somewhat difficult to get
right now, although that situation is supposed to ease up soon. Oxxi can
inform you if there are third party solutions that will work with their
software.
//Jonathan,
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