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#142574From: Steve AhlstromMay 3, 1994 2:06 PM
This is getting strange … are they dead? Are they alive? Is this the basis of a new techno religion? The following is a usenet message from Gilles Bourdin. Good stuff, but take it for what it's worth … optimistic _rumor_. ———– From: Gilles Bourdin Date : Monday, May 2nd 1994, 16H30 CET. Source : Commodore Germany Commodore is NOT DEAD and neither is the Amiga. Call it a miracle, or whateveryou like, but it's TRUE. Look, I just called Commodore Germany and was told that the european operations were not affected by the American liquidation. "Things are just fine over here in Frankfurt, thank you". I called four different people to make sure that the information is accurate (yes, I speak german). I know someof these people personnaly, I worked at Commodore Germany a few years ago, andam concerned in spreading reliable information from reliable sources, so please, do not flame this information as rumours, it is REAL. Commodore currently only gives information by phone, untill everything is cleared up. Commodore US HAD to be liquidated because they found an investor who is willing to inject enough cash to startup Commodores business again. They won'ttell at this time who actually bought them up, this will be done later in anofficial press announcement. It is also not sure what sort of agreement wasreached between them, if it's a joint venture, a participation in Commodorescapital or a complete takeover. What I can tell you, is that the buyer is a big asian investor who has enoughfinancial power to restart Commodore and who is willing to keep the Amiga product line alive. The american structure WILL be maintained, all devellopment comes from there.The recent layoffs are the results of the liquidation. There are good chancesthat many of these employees will be hired back when the storm is over. No clear statement, though. Production is still halted and restarting it is not a problem at all. The names "Commodore" and "Amiga", as well as the product line will be maintanined and supported in the future. There will be *no layoffs* at Commodore Germany. Alwin Stumpf (GEO of C= Germany) was in England on Saturday at a general meeting where these issues were discussed. I phoned with him last week (can'tbe reached today, unfortunately, you will understand why, actually it was areal pain to get through the busy phone lines today) and he mainly gave me informations about what was going to happen with Commodore in France. The main point in the negociations in GB were that the name Commodore and theproduct Amiga had to be maintained. They succeeded in avoiding an "Amiga slaughtering takeover". They found a way to acomplish this needed liquidation of C= US and all non-rentable subsidiaries (C= France, C= Spain, C= Belgium) without suspendingthe operations of C= Germany, C= Italy, C= GB and C= Scandinavia. Commodore France will be replaced by a new company called "Amiga Computer- export SARL", which will have an office in Paris. Developper and dealer support as well as marketing and distribution will be their main activity. This subsidiary of Commodore Germany will have a lighter structure than former Commodore France and will be 100% Amiga oriented, unlike C= France whowas too much PC oriented and who didn't survive the loss of the clone market. NJM> Yes this is the end. No, it's a new beginning. NJM> For the first time CBM made a headline on Compuserve! There will be more opportunities for them to make headlines soon, believe me. Feel free to phone or mail me for further informations, the lines are buzzingand I'll be back with more info as soon as available. Gilles Bourdin, Paris. Tel (331)45341957 FAX(331)46266261 gbo@ramses.fdn.org —————– -sja
#142891From: Mr. ChalleronMay 4, 1994 3:32 AM
Wanna hear a stranger rumor than that?… Al Haig and one of the other directors are sitting at lunch in a res- taurant somewhere (for some reason my "informant" didn't know if this was in Nassau or NYC), speaking in low tones but apparently discussing the future of the Amiga; "I'm in charge" Haig, never known for his subtlety, at one point cackles, "We're gonna kick his a** all the way back to Wash- ington," loudly enough that there's no mistaking the words. My informant promptly draws the conclusion (although it _was_ implied that there was plenty to conclude from) that Haig was referring to kicking Bill Gates's booty back to Redmond, Washington! The scenario is: Haig takes some kind of personal affront to MicroSoot making all these inroads into video and such, so they're going to blitz the CD32 onto the US market (the "media blitz" has also been suggested by other high C= employees, but not recently), and then after Christmas the next ad-campaign will be, "That toy you just bought? It also makes a really-neat home computer" … and supposedly this is going to break MicroSlop's stranglehold on the personal-computer market…. I wish I knew what kind of drugs my "informant" was using…. _General_ Haig couldn't _possibly_ have been talking about someone in Washington DC, now _could_ he? (Assuming, of course, that _any_ of this actually happened; it was one of those Bigfoot-sighting-type "a guy I know told me" routines…. I must admit, I haven't heard anything _quite_ so strange out here….
#142923From: CHARLES WILLIAMSMay 4, 1994 4:28 AM
Pickup Gamefan magazine volume2 issue5 in it they have pictures of the saturn and the software it runs, the pictures of the software look dam good probably somebody can tell me if it is real or a gimmick. If it is real software run on a saturn they better start making similiar products for the cd32 or fixup the cd32 so that it can play it now before the saturn comes out. There is also an article about a "Arcade Card" that will be used to create great RPG games for the PC engine. Whatever that means. Probably the AAA chip was made to whipeout competition like this. learn from the a1200&a4000 if it was released a year ahead it would have been good competition for the 256 color 386. Release the AAA chip now before the saturn comes out, if the saturn comes out first with no real competition it will be hard later to make inroads in their market if it is all it is said to be.
#142961From: stephen verbaMay 4, 1994 7:47 AM
Haig is a real player, a principal at America Online…with ties back to QLink and the C64 days. He'd love to kickass in the category, especially with Apple…try a keyword search on these names in any good pub database and you'll see the pattern (I do it for a living)..Intersting to see what happens.
#142900From: CHARLES WILLIAMSMay 4, 1994 3:54 AM
Somebody better go on a fast because they got alot of words to eat. By the way anybody out there like to gamble for money? I'll put my money on the amiga surviving…..any takers…com'on. aaaahh jim ya alright in my book….does this mean I get a free emplant?