CompuServe Thread

#Philips

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#194725From: Bart Van BockstaeleApr 26, 1995 8:12 PM
>>Believe me, Sony wouldn't acknowledge it if it wasn't so :)<< Except if Philips paid them large sums of money to say that <g> Can this info be found somewhere? Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
#194963From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaApr 28, 1995 12:05 AM
Basically, any article dealing with the history or background of the compact disc. I happen to be into music and audio, so I read many magazine articles on the stuff. DJ Autopilot 1.80 by Steve Ahlstrom From Queens, Center of the Looniverse …
#195167From: Bart Van BockstaeleApr 29, 1995 1:37 PM
>>Basically, any article dealing with the history or background of the compact disc. I happen to be into music and audio, so I read many magazine articles on the stuff.<< Thanks, but I am cautious though. Isn't it so that *many* writers just copy the others and so often create a myth? In the very school where I developed my first big program I have seen teachers tell the children that IBM made the first microcomputer ever in 1981. They even didn't believe me when I told them that they had about 10 or 20 microcomputers that were a few years older. Even when we showed them they didn't accept it nor did they change their story. Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
#195223From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaApr 29, 1995 10:09 PM
Bart, Anybody ever tell you you react a bit on the paranoid side :)? Not that I'm implying it may not be justified <g>. Better safe than sorry, I guess .. DJ Autopilot 1.80 by Steve Ahlstrom From Queens, Center of the Looniverse …
#195429From: Bart Van BockstaeleMay 1, 1995 11:54 PM
DJ, I guess I am used to deal with a government that allows us to say really *anything* positive about *their* point of view <grin or weep?> Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
#195300From: Alex BakerApr 30, 1995 6:58 PM
If the teachers of your schoel would not accept documented proof of the true history of Microcomputers, and once informed, would not tell the real story, then I would say that there is a _REAL_ problem with the teachers at your school. Which would also lead me to ask, what else have they taught as fact, that wasn't.
#195346From: Kurt Duncan @ WCNOCMay 1, 1995 8:52 AM
"Which would also lead me to ask, what else have they taught as fact, that wasn't." Hah. Again, Hah. They will teach whatever the NEA tells them to teach. I have never seen a teacher let facts get in the way of a good lesson plan.
#195358From: Paul IdolMay 1, 1995 11:47 AM
What's the NEA got to do with it, even if Bart wasn't in Belgium? Mr. Zombie
#195591From: Kurt Duncan @ WCNOCMay 3, 1995 1:14 PM
"What's the NEA got to do with it, even if Bart wasn't in Belgium?" Well, it's all tied in with the color of camels in Indonesia, cross-referenced against the rise or fall of the price of sheep's feet over an expanding rate of time, determined by the number of cow pies in a particular pasture here in Kansas. Actually, I was just railing against the propensity of some teachers to view their job in life to be that of holding a job, rather than that of educating students. Some of my teachers were truly educators, and for that I am grateful. Others were merely holding down jobs, and weren't particularly good at educating, nor did they seem to care. It is the latter group which I primarily associate with teacher's union philosophy (I think they should make teacher's unions illegal), which results in teaching the "approved curriculum", even when such curriculum can be proven incorrect. Maybe I just watched "Teachers" one too many times, I don't know… Confused in Kansas—
#195605From: Paul IdolMay 3, 1995 4:38 PM
>>Actually, I was just railing against the propensity of some teachers to view their job in life to be that of holding a job, rather than that of educating students.<< My aunt is a teacher, so I sympathize with them. They live in an almost Orwellian system in which teaching really isn't the point, and it's a constant, life-or-death struggle to hang on to their jobs, so it's hard to blame them. The system should be changed. I too have had a few good teachers–and a disproportionate number of them got fired. Mr. Zombie
#195426From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMay 1, 1995 11:42 PM
Wrong! They will teach what the state legislature or the local school board/administration tells them to teach. The NEA is just a professional organization (and there are numerous others, so it is not all that powerful) – it does not dictate teaching policies. Those are controlled by the legislatures, state Departments of Education, and the local school boards, working through the school principal. Within the guidelines set down by those ruling bodies, the teachers will teach as they see best. —Betty
#195592From: Kurt Duncan @ WCNOCMay 3, 1995 1:16 PM
"They will teach what the state legislature or the local school board/administration tells them to teach…" Hi Betty! Yeah, I was trying to figure out how to get that into my original message also, but my brain died and I haven't buried it yet. How about this: Abolish teacher's union, school board, administration, et al. Stick a teacher on one end of a log and a student on the other end.
#195639From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMay 3, 1995 10:08 PM
Kurt, The one thing you can be sure about in education is that whatever methods are popular this year will have faded away within five years and have been replaced with something new, and therefore bound to be wonderful. Most teachers can do a fairly good job of teaching if given a reasonable number of students, a reasonable amount of material to be taught, and a great deal of freedom in the way they teach it. We're doing fairly well on the teacher/student ratio in most places, I think. But everyone in the country has several pet topics that he insists the schools should add to the curriculum, and no one is willing to remove any of the old things, so there is far more to be taught than time permits. After all, little kids can handle just so much in a given amount of time! And in recent years, everyone has wanted to tell the teachers exactly how to do their jobs, and is convinced that anyone in the world other than an experienced and trained teacher can do the job better. Given the same restrictions for all, I just cannot accept that. —Betty
#195433From: Bart Van BockstaeleMay 1, 1995 11:54 PM
>>Which would also lead me to ask, what else have they taught as fact, that wasn't.<< It makes me think of a story in medecine. There has been a time that humans had 24 chromosome pairs. Nowadays, 23 are sufficient. Potential doctors did have problems because they only saw 23. They HAD to see 24 and so they added a 24th without ever having seen it… There are MANY such stories unfortunately. Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …