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Dollar bill map

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#169426From: James FranssenMay 10, 1995 12:08 PM
Does anyone know where I can get a good image of a U.S. dollar bill to be used as a texture map? Also, where might I be able to find a book of corporate logos? I know of one at a place called the "Bookstop" in San Antonio TX, but I am in Eugene Oregon, and I don't know of a "Bookstop" here. Thanks. -James Franssen
#169487From: DAN SPOMERMay 10, 1995 6:16 PM
James: I am not sure if it is legal, but you could scan a dollar bill. Probably the Treasury department would frown on it. You could always composite Frank Zappas image over Georges though……… How is Spencers Butte these days? How about Cougar Hot Springs up the McKenzie? Email me if you need the scan desparately. Mike
#169562From: James FranssenMay 11, 1995 1:58 AM
>> How is Spencers Butte these days? How about Cougar Hot Springs up the McKenzie? << I've yet to try either. We're about to purchase a recreation vehicle though, so those are now on our list! >> Email me if you need the scan desparately. << Not desperately, just would like to find one. I don't have a scanner, any ideas as to what kind of scanner I should look for? Thanks. -James Franssen
#169580From: DAN SPOMERMay 11, 1995 8:11 AM
James, I went to school in Eugene, and grew up in Roseburg. I miss Oregon this time every year. Spencers Butte is that big Rock at the end of Willamette street downtown. As college kids, we used to go up there and do the things that kids do. I am taking my family on Vacation in Oregon next month. Hope it doesn't rain!! I own an HP IIcx flatbed scanner that works great. I recently acquired a IIIc for a friend, it has replaced the IIcx. HP seems to be a very reliable and consistent product. I will do the scan for you if you need it. Depending on the size/resolution you require, I could send you a disk, or drop in your mailbox. Let me know, Mike
#169953From: mark schneiderMay 13, 1995 7:21 PM
Hi Mike, hmm, talking about flatbeds, I'm curious, you said you upgraded your scanner, I'm in Montreal, and here HP has brought out a brand new fladbed scanner called the ScanJet 3c, it came out on April 20, 1995. In their press release, they say this has replaced the II series. Does your scanner scan at 600 dpi OPTICAL resolution ? The reason I'm wondering, is that this new one scans at 600 dpi, and is 1495$ here. I am really looking for a flatbed scanner, and many people have told me to do really decent scans that you need a 600 dpi optical scanner, not one that scans at 300 dpi (optical), perhaps you could help me out, how are the scans you do, when you can say .. a picture from a catalogue, or magazine does your machine do a scan pretty much the quality of the original ? I'm very curious, I'm also wondering, when you see jpgs or gifs of calender girls, motorbikes, boats, etc, how come they are about 500k for about a 1024×768 image ?, I few other users here on Compuserve had told me that an image scanned at 600 dpi, that size would be 5 megs!, hmm, I'm pretty lost. I find the quality of these gifs quite good, you don't see any imperfections in the image, and they are super crisp. Anyway, any info you can give me I would really appreciate. thanks for taking the time to read this. Mark in Montreal.
#169996From: EDWARD HARVEYMay 14, 1995 1:45 AM
PMJI << many people have told me to do really decent scans that you need a 600 dpi optical scanner,>> It would depend on the size of the source material you were scanning. To me the main thing is how many pixels are involved. Unless you are ending up with a printed output, dpi is not the most important factor . An image with a given number of pixels can be converted to various dpi levels in photoshop but the ammount of information will be the same. Therefore a 300 dpi scanner of equal image quality to a 600 dpi scanner should be able to scan a 4" sq source image with the same ammount of detail and quality as the 600 dpi scanner would do with a 2" square source image. This is without taking into account the printing dots that are present in magazine photos that cause problems when scanning small images. Since files of images scanned at less than 300 dpi can be larger than is necessary for use in 3ds textures, especially for video work( If a map will only take up one third of a 750 pixel wide video image then anything over 250 pixels is overkill.), a 300dpi scanner should be sufficient for stuff that will be for video output. If you do film work or still print work that would end up in output that is measured in 1000s of pixels rather than 100s of pixels then a 600 dpi scanner would be a good idea. GIFs have limited color palettes and JPEGS are compressed so they are smaller files. Pardon me if Im telling you things you already know but you mentioned your confusion. Hope this helps Ed
#169503From: EDWARD HARVEYMay 10, 1995 8:25 PM
<<Does anyone know where I can get a good image of a U.S. dollar bill to be used as a texture map? Why not use a dollar bill? Ed
#169560From: James FranssenMay 11, 1995 1:58 AM
>> <<Does anyone know where I can get a good image of a U.S. dollar bill to be used as a texture map? Why not use a dollar bill? << That's a funny one. Let's see, hmmm, if I place this dollar bill up to the monitor, hmm, maybe if I press a little harder.. <CRACK!> Uhmmmm, I don't think that's gonna' work too well. Thanks for the suggestion though 🙂 What I was wanting to know is where I can find a good image already captured. I don't have a scanner. -James Franssen
#169625From: David RhotenMay 11, 1995 1:08 PM
Er, um, well James, ah, due to the nature of the paper on which, um, currency is printed, it, ah, is partially destroyed by the scanner light, sooo, I'll do it for you, but you'll, er, have to provide me with more than one dollar bill to make the scan, er-ah, work — probably 1,000 or so, ought to do it…. <g> (Then I run out to BestBuy and grab a new HP ScanJet IIIc, which would make your bills disappear "poof", take it home, scan in a bill, and, viola!) Dave
#169728From: James FranssenMay 12, 1995 12:33 AM
It seems, uhm er ah eh, the straight forward, uhm er ah, help is getting, er, harder and harder, uh, to find. My only gripe about coming on this forum and asking a question, is that some people only like to give partial replies. I think I could have figured out that I could get a dollar bill image from a dollar bill. Is it really that hard to understand what I was asking? -James Franssen
#169936From: James M. MurphyMay 13, 1995 2:55 PM
>>>> It seems, uhm er ah eh, the straight forward, uhm er ah, help is getting, er, harder and harder, uh, to find. My only gripe about coming on this forum and asking a question, is that some people only like to give partial replies. <<<<< Ummm…Excuse me, I didn't understand that question. Could you Please rephrase that in the form of an Answer? Thank You. <BG> Murph'
#169957From: mark schneiderMay 13, 1995 7:21 PM
Hi James, if I had a good scanner I could would scan a bill for you, … here is another way to do it. The other day I bought a new product called SNAPPY, this is a video grabber that graps video stills and you can use them as materials, just plain snapshots of your family photos, grab images from the t.v. vhs machine, video disk player, etc. I paid 299$ here in Montreal, the product has been out here for about 3 weeks only and is brand spankin' new. The beauty of this product is … you just plug it in to your parallel (printer) port, and that is it!, no need to install an actual card in your computer, 2 seconds to plug it in, about 2 minutes to install 1 diskette for windows to run the software, and there is a morph program and an image program called Fauve Matise that comes with it. Amazing little product. It was listed by 2 magasines at the best new product of 1995. It captures : 16.8 million colours at a maximum resolution of 1500×1125 !!! this is the first and only video capture device that has been able to do this. all others capture at 640×480 resoluton. You have all kinds of neat features in the Snappy software, input options: TV/VHS input LIVE VIDEO CAMERA SOURCE MOVING VIDEO STILL VIDEO HIGHER QUALITY VIDEO STILL HIGHEST VIDEO QUALITY STILL – 1500X1125 You have the choice of scanning at : 320×200 640×480 1500×1225 all in 16.8 million colours. Anyway, for anyone interested here is more info: PLAY INCORPORATED 2890 KILGORE ROAD FRACHO CORDOVA, CALIFORNIA 95670-6133 FAX: (916)851-0801 I'm pretty amazed at the quality of the snaps I've been making, and I'll send a few up, and I'll do a scan with my junky little handheld scanner of a 2 dollar bill, as here in Canada, the 1 dollar doesn't exist any more, we have a neat little dollar coin called a "loony" as you know we Canadians are a little loony haha. ok, bye for now Mark in Montreal.
#169956From: mark schneiderMay 13, 1995 7:21 PM
Hi David, ahh, you know about the new HP ScanJet 3C, I just saw this a few weeks ago, there was a press release about it, and it looks like a pretty amazing piece of equipment, supposedly this is the best colour they have ever brought out, and it also scans at 600 dpi (optical), I am so curious to see how a flatbed scanner that scans at 300 dpi optical scans. Do you have access to a scanner ? if so could you do a scan of an American stamp, at the highest quality, and send it to the forum ? … or anyone else reading this, everyone tells me to do quality scans you should have a 600 dpi scanner, but I still curious what a 300 dpi scanner scans are like or even a small sample of a scan with a 600 dpi scanner. Anyway, thanks very much, Mark Schneider.
#170110From: David RhotenMay 15, 1995 10:13 AM
Mark: UNfortuneately, all I've got direct access to is a crummy little hand-scanner. I just don't have a need that I could defend strongly enough if the boss were to say, "And we needed to spend $1000 on this thing BECAUSE…?" — <g> I too have heard some really good rumours re the IIIc. One day, perhaps. Dave
#170127From: mark schneiderMay 15, 1995 12:48 PM
Hi David, I understand what you mean, it is funny, I would go out and spend money on a scanner even if is just for personal fun. I once had the experience of buying something really bad, (stereo amp for my car), the money I paid wasn't much, and the amp sucked big time, I was fortunate enough to take it back, and bought a top of the line Denon amp at 1500$, I love music, and this sounds amazing. The thing is that you get what you pay for… I'm now very weiry of buying an article that is half the price of other article that is supposed to do the same thing. I see some scanners at 899$, then some at 1499$, but again you get what you pay for. It is all a matter of money though. Yeah, with times today, nobody feels very secure here anymore, in Canada anyway, they say the employment situation is getting better here, but most people don't see it happening, so everyone is watching their pennies more closely. For scanners, there is now a new model that takes over where the IIIc left off, the HP ScanJet 3c, this is a beautiful piece of machinery, if you ever see it, you won't want to go home without it!, oh well, c'est la vie, take care, Mark in Mtl.
#169735From: EDWARD HARVEYMay 12, 1995 12:50 AM
Sorry, I just assumed you had a scanner. Ed
#169954From: mark schneiderMay 13, 1995 7:21 PM
Hi James, geez, you don't have a scanner eh ? I myself am looking for a flatbed scanner. Right now I have a colour handheld scanner that I got here in Montreal for 199$, it works pretty well, but could not be used for quality work. I do scans of family photos, etc, anyway, once you get hooked, you'll never be able be able to work without one, they are pretty fun to use, and are really an essential tool. The possibilities are endless! Mark in Montreal.
#169980From: James FranssenMay 13, 1995 10:26 PM
>> geez, you don't have a scanner eh ? << No, but we do have a Canon L1 Hi8 video camera and that is what I've been using to bring in images to use as texture maps, but I tried to grab a dollar bill from the camera and the colors just weren't right, I don't have to correct lighting set up yet, also, I got a lot of video lines, so the image just wasn't clear enough. -James Franssen
#169982From: mark schneiderMay 13, 1995 11:20 PM
I've sent a dollar bill scan, check it out Mark. The actual real scan was 2 megs big! ahh.
#169955From: mark schneiderMay 13, 1995 7:21 PM
Hi again James, perhaps one of the users could upload a scan of a dollar bill, I would be interested to see the quality of a scan, with a flatbed scanner. Concerning legality, … I know actually printing a PHYSICAL dollar bill, that is: a hardcopy of it, is illegal here in Canada, but as to just scanning it for use on the computer screen this is something else, I've seen a lot of scanned bills in .pcx form on many bbs, but they were in black and white, and pretty bad quality. (More like a pretty badly photocopied image). Good luck. Mark in Montreal.
#169706From: Robert C. RitgerMay 11, 1995 9:29 PM
James: For the logos you could try the CD-Rom collection from Impresiv. They have at least a volume I and II which include about a hundred logos from major companies and institutions. Bob
#169729From: James FranssenMay 12, 1995 12:33 AM
>> For the logos you could try the CD-Rom collection from Impresiv << Could these logo's be saved as individual images and used as a background in 3D Studio? How might I get the address for Impresiv? Thanks. -James Franssen
#170073From: Robert C. RitgerMay 14, 1995 9:38 PM
Jim: The logos on the CD's are stored in both bitmap and vector format. I don't have Impresiv's address handy, sorry. Bob
#170333From: Scott TherriaultMay 16, 1995 4:31 PM
Tiger Software is a major mail order company that stocks the Expresiv logo collections volume 1 and 2, $139.90 for both, stk # t33-1108. call 1 800 888 4437. If you decide to buy, let me know how they are. Scott Therriault Gulf Coast Multimedia
#169958From: mark schneiderMay 13, 1995 7:21 PM
Hi James, geez, I'm going to check my wallet, I think I actually have an American dollar bill! Just checked … and I do have have a 1 $ bill as well as a $5 ok, I'll scan them, and it the sysops think it is ok, you'll probabally see them on monday, as I don't think the forums are updated over the week-end. anyway let me know what you think of the scans. bye for now Mark in Montreal. geez jus out on the balcony, everybody and their brother are out, really nice, and still sunny at 7:56 in the evening on a sat nite.