#Animation Studio
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Hi…
I just recived Ani Studio It's different<g> it runs fine in
windows but hangs up NT <g> will it run under NT ?
Harry D
Harry,
Harry,
Animator Studio wasn't designed to run in NT-even in its 16-bit shell mode.
Sorry.
Jh
Jerry, I was at your pre-release training in Chicago . . . I remember you
saying that Animator Studio wasn't designed for "NT", but I don't remember if
you said if there were any plans to do so in the future . . .
Thanks Jeremy …
PMJI, but even if it isn't an NT app, SHOULDN'T you have made sure it would at
least RUN under NT, considering that you're asking everyone to go to NT for
3DS? I mean, from what I understand, the plans for the move to the NT platform
have been in place for quite a while. Are there plans to make it compatible in
the near future?
Thanks,
Dave
<<Are there plans to make it compatible in the near future?>>
Nothing has been annouced.
Jh
Please tell us why Autodesk is not supporting NT with Animation Studio.
Brandon
>> Please tell us why Autodesk is not supporting NT with Animation Studio. <<
Brandon, this isn't Autodesk talking here but…. why do you think? <g> if you
were developing a Window product for the "masses"… which flavor would YOU
develop for? <ggg> -dave
Well I would think that it would run under NT regardless of the mass.
I do not want to jump to any negative conclusions and would like a
a explanation regarding this. if it runs in 16 bit that ok as long as it runs.
If not, why not. From what I understand not supporting NT by a windows
app would have to be programmed to keep it from loading. Something I
was not excepting from Autodesk.
Brandon
Think about it for a minute, If Autocad is already running on NT and
3D Studio will be there around the first part of next year, doesn't
it also make sense that you should EXPECT to see an NT version of
Animator Studio to follow suit in time for the change-over?
Appears to me that Autodesk is heading in this direction across the board.
Lee
>>
Think about it for a minute, If Autocad is already running on NT and
3D Studio will be there around the first part of next year, doesn't
it also make sense that you should EXPECT to see an NT version of
Animator Studio to follow suit in time for the change-over?
Appears to me that Autodesk is heading in this direction across the board. <<
🙂 -dave
Hi Dave!
I've been reading some messages about how AS won't run under Windows 95. Do
you have any inside scoop on this? I find this _very_ hard to believe as it
would be the _first_ program I've come across that won't run under W95. A
"brand new" program that won't run under W95 while others that are (relatively)
way-old run just fine? Nah… Tell me it ain't so!
I just placed my order for it on Friday and if I can't run it (I'm W95 only
now) I'll have to cancel the order 'cause I be darned if I'll pay for a program
that I can't run, only to have to pay for yet-another-upgrade later just to run
it for the _first_ time.
Also, in an earlier message you referred to the intended market of Studio as
the current "computer masses" [not a direct quote] but I would contend that a
program that demands that amount of memory that AS does simply isn't a mass
market product and never will be.
So… What'd'ya think? (or dontcha?<g>)
Ernie Jackson
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Hi Ernie! 🙂
>> I've been reading some messages about how AS won't run under Windows 95. Do
you have any inside scoop on this? I find this _very_ hard to believe as it
would be the _first_ program I've come across that won't run under W95. A
"brand new" program that won't run under W95 while others that are (relatively)
way-old run just fine? Nah… Tell me it ain't so! <<
it's so. but hey, this is it's first release. every program's debute starts out
on some platform. if we look to every great program Autodesk has ever produced,
they got their start on a single platform. as to the future of AStudio, no one
can comment about any product's future, but with the increasing marketshare of
Win95 and NT, it's pretty easy to see the writing on the wall. in my
experience, Win95 and NT are still nothing in marketshare compared to Win3.1.
it makes complete sense that the program was written for the "common man"
first. i think many of us here forget how entrenched we are in technology
compared to the rest of the nation, and i say this without any level of
snobbery… the product caters to the majority at this time. keep in mind that
it is not solely catered to the "traditional Autodesk customer" either. <g>
>> I just placed my order for it on Friday and if I can't run it (I'm W95 only
now) I'll have to cancel the order 'cause I be darned if I'll pay for a program
that I can't run, only to have to pay for yet-another-upgrade later just to run
it for the _first_ time. <<
no problem, ernie. i think of all software products that way. it is a wise
strategy. no rush. if a version comes out for Win95 or NT, it will no doubt be
built off the success of the Win3.1 version and you'll have even a better
product. patience is its own reward! <g> look how many of us have been waiting
for an NT version of 3D Studio!
>> Also, in an earlier message you referred to the intended market of Studio as
the current "computer masses" [not a direct quote] but I would contend that a
program that demands that amount of memory that AS does simply isn't a mass
market product and never will be. <<
perhaps AStudio is a prophet of things to come…a gearing up of the next step
in hardware demands. Windows applications have always been top heavy compared
to their DOS equivalents (gads… ever compared Wordperfect DOS to Wordperfect
Windows, or AutoCAD for Windows to AutoCAD for DOS)… ? 😉 i remember Bill
Gates saying once "why would anyone ever need more than 640K or memory?". i
remember being impressed with an AT with 8MB RAM. if i didn't know better, i'd
say a lot of people are suffering from "the comfy chair" syndrome again. <ggg>
>> So… What'd'ya think? (or dontcha?<g>) <<
i think AStudio is a great product for Windows 3.1. i think it has a bright
future ahead of it, and it would not surprise me in the least to see a version
which will run under NT in the future. i could be more specific though if i
knew your zodiac sign. <LOL!>
-dave
<< From what I understand not supporting NT by a windows
app would have to be programmed to keep it from loading>>
Actually, this is not true. The ability to run an application under Windows NT
is more than just double clicking on the icon. How Windows NT handles the
system, everything from display to multimedia drivers, differs signficantly
over Windows 3.1. It involves much more than a re-compile to a 32-bit code.
Dave is right about where this product is aimed. We wanted to make Animator
Studio available to everybody who needs a good 2D paint and animation tool in
Windows. Right now, that means Windows 3.1.
Jh
Jeremy – <everybody who needs a good 2D paint and animation tool in Windows.
Right now, that means Windows 3.1> Well, actually, 2-D animation software is a
must for all of us 3-D folks. Since 3-DS will be on NT soon enough to be called
"almost now", Autodesk's position with regard to Ani-Pro and Animator Studio is
very crucial. Once I launch 3-DS in an NT session, I want to be able to
multi-task to most of my critical apps. If Animator Studio is not going to be
upgraded to NT, I would rather spend the time learning an 'at least as robust'
package and thus eliminate yet another reason to dual boot. A definite catagory
on my WISHLIST – have both Ani-Pro and Animator STudio running in NT (so much
for a perfect virtual world). Jeffrey
Well dave, I will develop it for win32 and then I will be able to make it run
both under Windows 3.1, Windows 95 and Windows NT. That way I will support the
masses of business people and the masses of 3DS users who want to use the
program under NT.
Cool concept, uhn? 🙂
ana /krazy images
>> Cool concept, uhn? 🙂 <<
she'll be comin' round th' mountain when she comes…
she'll be comin' round th' mountain when she comes…
she'll be comin' round th' mountain
she'll be comin' round th' mountain
she'll be comin' round th' mountain when she comes…
<g>
-dave
<<PMJI, but even if it isn't an NT app, SHOULDN'T you have made sure it would
at least RUN under NT, considering that you're asking everyone to go to NT for
3DS? I mean, from what I understand, the plans for the move to the NT platform
have been in place for quite a while. Are there plans to make it compatible in
the near future?>>
We have just ordered the software, are you saying it does not run under
NT?
Brandon
According to Mr. Jeremy Hubbel [Adesk], the initially shipping version of
AAStudio will not run under NT, due to problems with the differences in MM
handling between Win3.11 and NT. And, of course, there will be no comments
forthcoming from Adesk about whether they intend to make an NT compatible
version.
However, it seems reasonable to assume that they will. What doesn't seem AS
reasonable, though, is that they expect you to jump back and forth between two
operating systems (ie re-boot) in order to go from using 3DS to AAS and back —
though that'll be the case for those continuing to use AAP, anyway… so why am
I griping?
I guess because it seems that in a cohesive strategy, one would want all new
products to be able to mesh (no pun intended) with the least possible effort,
and while one would expect difficulties with continuing to use older apps, that
shouldn't be the case with new ones.
Dave
They haven't said they WILL, but they haven't said they WON'T either.
David,
The incompatibility of Animaton Studio with NT is very frustrating. Autodesk
has known about this for some time and the only thing that I can think of is
that they had their hands full getting it running at all.
Some people are suggesting that Autodesk is 'of course' coming out with an NT
version. I'm not convinced. I was always confident that we would see 3DS go
NT, but if people want an NT version of Animaton Studio then
__SHOUT_REAL_LOUD___!
A more professional 2D animation package under NT with multiple floating
objects etc would only make sense and someone is going to do it. I hope it
will be Autodesk.
-Paul
>>We have just ordered the software, are you saying it does not run under
NT?<<
I just received my copy of Animator Studio today. I run NT 3.51. It DOES NOT
run under NT. In fact it hangs the system. I called tech support and they
told me that it will not run under NT. I asked what my options were and they
said run it under Windows 3.1 or return the product.
Randy
Thanks Randy, you're correct.
Why would AutoDesk develop a Windows app that will not run under NT? I can
understand that it may not be a native NT app but why not allow it to run under
NT (or Windows 95…So, far)?
Thanks,
Randy
"Why would AutoDesk develop a Windows app that will not run under NT?"
I would guess that it wasn't Autodesk's intent to NOT do an NT version. My
guess would be that a Windows port was easier or quicker, and that hopefully an
NT version would come from the feedback we're getting with the Windows Version
AAStudio. I know that the product manager (Mark Gerhard) sees the comments
about AAStudio.
Thanks.
Nik,
In retrospect, I do think people should have a significant block of time in
order to switch from WfWG/etc. to NT. (many have already started) Purchasing
a valuable new program that is yet another stop sign for the "journey" to NT is
frustrating. People want to change at their leisure, not following ADESK's
official (yet unnanounced, of course) plan to get get everything over to NT by
[insert date/major event here].
People are sick of Dos, and sick of Windows. They want to get to a rich,
stable environment as soon as possible, and they (we) rely on more than just a
couple programs for productivity. (I have ER, and PP/NT in my hot hands, ready
for NT.) But all said and soapbox returned, I understand if it was easier to
write "quick and dirty" for WfWG/etc and tweak things for NT later. Better
AAStudio in the hand, than NT AAS in the bush. -just make sure NT AAS is really
NT tweaked. 😉
JNJ
Thanks John – your message passed on to Mark Gerhard.
Jeremy,
<< Animator Studio wasn't designed to run in NT-even in its 16-bit shell mode.
Sorry. >>
WHAAAAT ?!? You know because 3DS is comming out for NT I will not buy anything
anymore that doesn't run under NT… I am very disapointed. 🙁 I think
Autodesk really needs to sit down and think things out.
End of rant.
Mark
Hi Mark –
I think your comments are good (and the Animator Studio Product Manager reads
this) – I'm hoping for an NT version too. Your comments are on the wishlist.
Hi Nik.
<< I think your comments are good (and the Animator Studio Product Manager
reads this) – I'm hoping for an NT version too. Your comments are on the
wishlist. >>
Thanks. What is Mark Gerhard's CIS ID?
Mark
" What is Mark Gerhard's CIS ID?"
He's mark.gerhard@autodesk.com. No CI$ ID that I know of.
Nik,
<< He's mark.gerhard@autodesk.com. No CI$ ID that I know of. >>
Thanks.
Mark