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#3000 & 2.04

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#197333From: RAL lakeMay 17, 1995 8:39 PM
I Just bought an older 3000 and am trying to install WB 2.04. But it won't even boot from floppy 2.04. I have the original WBench stuff and it came with a kickstart disk. Not even my 500 uses one of these. Can I update the rom, or is it perhaps a zorro autoconfig board I need? any and all suggetions appreciated. . RAL *Amiga was my first* // // . What I cannot do alone We can do together \\// \\//
#197368From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMay 18, 1995 1:04 AM
You will need the 2.04 Kickstart ROM to use 2.04 Workbench. At this point, though, it would probably be better to get 3.1 instead, since it is newer and better. The kickstart disk you have was not intended for general use. Those were made only for developers, who would know how to install and use them. —Betty
#197438From: Asha DeVelderMay 18, 1995 7:21 PM
Ral, >I Just bought an older 3000 and am trying to install WB 2.04. But it won't even boot from floppy 2.04. I have the original WBench stuff and it came with a kickstart disk. I suspect it was a developer's machine. My best advice would be to upgrade all the way to OS 3.1 (with the ROMS). There are several places where it should be available (mail order, at least). Good luck! Skimming through the Redwoods on AutoPilot Asha
#197452From: RAL lakeMay 18, 1995 9:08 PM
What is a developers macheine and how is it different than a stock critter? It apparently was designed as a point of sale macheine for sales people to demonstrate to potential customers. It has some kind edition of 2.0 that must have been the first release of 2.0 (36.xx) I want to upgrade the OS to at least 2.1 if not 3.x. How do I go About it? is it a chip swap or a software kind of thing? I have a floppy of WBench 2.04 but the computer won't boot from it, gets as far as the DOS screen then gurus with a software failure notice. Is the 3000 OS stored by the computer different than a 500? I'm real good at taking these apart without damaging them so let me know what I have to do… THANKS ALL! . RAL *Amiga was my first* // // . What I cannot do alone We can do together \\// \\//
#197469From: Jim SteeleMay 18, 1995 10:59 PM
The first 3000's "kickstarted" from a file on the hard disk. To set that up, you needed the "Super Kickstart" disk that came with the 3000. The install utility on the matching WB disk put the Kickstart image out onto the hard drive where the ROMS in the machine would find them. (You're right about the ROMS being an early version of 2.0… it was just enough to boot in the kickstart from the HD.) Best bet would be to go all the way to 3.1. It's a ROM swap, you can get the new ROMS from a dealer (if you can find one) or mail order. Then it's just a matter of replacing those early 2.0 ROMS with the new ones, and reloading the HD. BTW, make sure you get the 3000 version of the ROMS. -Jim MOS via Autopilot & Amiga
#197544From: Asha DeVelderMay 19, 1995 6:43 PM
Ral, >What is a developers macheine and how is it different than a stock critter? What I meant was, perhaps the person who had that machine before was using it to develope software or hardware on and had a "kickstart" disk so that he/she could test their products with various beta versions of the OS. > It apparently was designed as a point of sale macheine for sales people to demonstrate to potential customers. There were also early models of the 3000 that had the kickstart ROMs as a file on the workbench. I'd never really heard of one that had it on disk before. >I want to upgrade the OS to at least 2.1 if not 3.x. How do I go About it? is it a chip swap or a software kind of thing? Both. I'd stronly suggest getting 3.X. You will need to install (or have someone else do it) the 3.1 ROM and then install the software. >Is the 3000 OS stored by the computer different than a 500? As I said above, some 3000's have their ROM image on the harddrive and boot from that. Others have installed the ROMs. The ROMs for the 3000 are different (there are two I think) than those for the 500. The OS (software part) is stored in a similar manner on all Amigas (in sys:) Hope this helps! Skimming through the Redwoods on AutoPilot Asha