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#Scanner HELP!!!!!!

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#46382From: C. Davey UtterApr 10, 1995 3:25 AM
Well, I guess it's time to ask here. I'm having a hell-of-a time getting a Migraph Scanner to run with a 2000. I've tried everything and the sw for the scanner will not load. I keep getting a "unexpected scsi.device status error". I'm using a 4.6 mother board, a GVP combo accelerator and scsi controller and a Quantum 1080S 1-Gig HD. I have tried every conceivable combination of termination on the HD and am at my wits end with this thing. Can anyone help me? C. Davey
#46390From: Norman AustinApr 10, 1995 7:39 PM
Hi C, There was a terminator included with your scanner, or there shound have been. Plug it into the empty scsi port on your scanner, let your hard drive know it is no longer the last device (last lun/last disk) and you should be scanning away in no time. If none of this works, Migraph has more than adequate tech support. Regards, Norman Austin 70743,1535
#46395From: C. Davey UtterApr 11, 1995 3:42 AM
Oh yeah, I didn't mention the obvious terminations on the scanner end. But yes, that has also been tried in every concievable combination. Same result. I have spent hours on the phone with Migraph, who decided it was a GVP problem and with GVP, right up 'til their last week of life, getting excellent support but no answers. I have availed myself of Quantum's "FAX On Demand" customer service and if you wnat to talk SERVICE man, THEY are happening! No solution. I'm beginning to think it is a hardware problem related to my very early mother-board (4.2 upgraded to 4.5, I think), but don't really want to buy another computer if I don't have to to get this going. I need to know if anyone has gotten a Migraph 2400 to work with a GVP Combo accelerator/scsi controller with a Quantum 1080S on a 2000 w/4.5 mother board. C. Davey
#46398From: Norman AustinApr 11, 1995 7:04 PM
Sorry you're having this problem C. I have my Migraph hooked up to an A2000 w/GVP 33mhz '040 and 1.7 gig Micropolis drive. I was having the same problem you're having until my scanner was made the last device (I have a tape backup system in the scsi chain also). Oh, BTW how long are your scsi cables? I had to shorten my cables and rearrange my gear to enable my to use 3ft cables between each scsi device. Hope this helps. Oh yes, my motherboard is a 6.2 rev. Regards, Norman Austin 70743,1535
#46405From: C. Davey UtterApr 12, 1995 2:43 AM
>I was having the same problem you're having until my scanner was made the >last device All I have is the HD, mounted on the GVP board and the scanner. The cable is the one that comes with the scanner. There are no others. It's only about a 3 or 4 foot cable. Do you mean that you were having the problem of not being able to load the sw for the scanner because of this "unexpected gvpscsi.device status" error? I'm beginning to think that it's an incompatability between either the mother board or the operating system. I'm using 3.1 OS, what do you have? Well, at least it does some good to talk to someone who has been successful in getting this stuff to all work together. Thanks. C. Davey
#46413From: Norman AustinApr 12, 1995 7:49 PM
C, There is one thing that I left out, turn on the scanner first and let it go all the way through its initialization (until both lights, POWER and READY come on and stay on) then and only then, turn on the computer. I am also using OS 3.1 Regards, Norman Austin 70743,1535
#46425From: C. Davey UtterApr 13, 1995 5:37 PM
>turn on the scanner first and let it go all the way through >its initialization (until both lights, POWER and READY come >on and stay on) then and only then, turn on the computer. Yup, that's been SOP from the beginning. One thing, however. You do have this scanner working with OS 3.1, is that correct? If so, that elliminates the possiblity of an incompatability between the two. I have also elliminated the possibility of an incompatability with mother board revision 4.2 so that's good. We're getting warm here. What SW did you use to prep your HD? . C. Davey
#46434From: Norman AustinApr 14, 1995 7:28 AM
Yes, I am running 3.1, from an A2000 with GVP 33MHz '040. GVP Faastprep, version 2.02 was used to prep the drive. If you think it might help, my phone # is 312 238-9726 Regards, Norman Austin 70743,1535
#46501From: C. Davey UtterApr 18, 1995 3:29 PM
ALMOST the same configuration as my set-up. You are my key to solving this problem. You used Faaastprep, not Expertprep to prep the drive. That's a differance. I used Expertprep. I am off to NY in a few days but may be calling you when I get back next week. Have to solve a problem on the HD that I created a few days ago first. Then I'll get back to it. I *will* get this thing working. Thanks for the offer of help and the phone number! . C. Davey
#46515From: Norman AustinApr 19, 1995 4:13 PM
No problem C, I just hope I can be of assistance. The best time to reach me is between 5:00 and 8:00 P.M. central standard time. Incidently, I also used ExpertPrep, I misspoke when I said Faaastprep. Regards, Norman Austin 70743,1535
#46519From: C. Davey UtterApr 19, 1995 10:48 PM
Aha! Ok, when you used Expertprep did you have the "Last Drive" switch checked or not? . C. Davey
#46408From: Lewis J. AlbertsApr 12, 1995 9:48 AM
Hi, Norman! C.Davey replied to my message regarding the same basic problem: Migraph w/ GVP product. I have a GVP HD8, looking at GVP's docs where they refer to the terminating bus, they show a drawing of the resistor pack. Opening up the HD, I saw two such packs, yellow, but they appear to be soldered in, I will have to re-check, though. As C. Davey said, GVP tech support leaves a LOT to be desired. Migraph said it was the HD, as the "chain" is terminating there. W/o the Terminating block SCSITest doesn't see anything beyond the HD, with the Term Block I get the same cryptic message from the sys as C.Davey. —via AutoPilot@14400 Lou Yurcsak
#46414From: Norman AustinApr 12, 1995 7:49 PM
Lou, There should be either two or three very thin, long (about 1 inch) terminators on your drive they should be right above your scsi I/O port on the drive, side by side (lengthwise). If these yellow things things you saw were indeed soldered in, they are not terminating resistors. One thing I neglected to mention to C, was to let the scanner go completely through its initialization (until both the POWER and READY lights are on steadily) before you turn on the computer. Regards, Norman Austin 70743,1535
#46419From: Lewis J. AlbertsApr 13, 1995 12:18 AM
Hi, Norm: I just checked by the I/O port ( forgive my ignorance, but that's the one which plugs into the side of the Amiga?). There is nothing which resembles what you describe, anywhere. I have four simms, could it be under these? though I doubt there's room. As to the scanner, I did wait until all the lights stopped flashing. I do appreciate any help you can render as GVP is not too fast on getting back to one. One GVP dealer said that there may not be a term block in the HD8+, I don't know. Although after looking around the uncovered HD the only open areas besides the SIMM pins, are two rows of pins near the I/O port (assuming the above definition is right), but this wouldn't accomadate (sp) an inch long term block. —via AutoPilot@14400 Lou Yurcsak
#46424From: Norman AustinApr 13, 1995 4:46 PM
Louis, The terminating resistors are on your hard drive, not on your HD8 (I don't know anything about your HD8.) the resistors should be above the 50 pin scsi connection on your hard drive. Look on top of your hard drive, right above the scsi port on the back of the hard drive. Please excuse the number of times I said hard drive, but I don't want to be responsible for your (or anyone else) misunderstanding me. My phone number is 312 238-9726, if this might be useful. Regards, Norman Austin 70743,1535
#46430From: Lewis J. AlbertsApr 14, 1995 12:06 AM
Thanks Norman! Much to my chagrin I've decided to returm the scanner to the vendor. Rather than run the risk of ending up with an expensive dust catcher. I appreciate your help. —via AutoPilot@14400 Lou Yurcsak
#46435From: Norman AustinApr 14, 1995 7:28 AM
No problem, wish I could have helped. Regards, Norman Austin 70743,1535
#46436From: Lewis J. AlbertsApr 14, 1995 9:44 AM
So do I. Thanks. —via AutoPilot@14400 Lou Yurcsak
#46426From: C. Davey UtterApr 13, 1995 6:28 PM
Louis, What make Hard Drive is it? . C. Davey
#46431From: Lewis J. AlbertsApr 14, 1995 12:07 AM
It's a GVP, although I forget the make of the actual HD. I decided to return the scanner, I didn't want to risk ending up with a useless device, and be out the cash. it is unfortunate, I had such plans :). It's a pity, GVP's "tech support" sucks. —via AutoPilot@14400 Lou Yurcsak
#46500From: C. Davey UtterApr 18, 1995 3:29 PM
Sorry to hear you gave up on this. Now what do I do? . C. Davey