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#Ikegami Camera?

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#4473From: Paul VendrickApr 7, 1995 10:00 AM
Harry Levins of the St. Louis Post Dispatch writes: You may have wondered why time's winged chariot never carves ruts across the faces of people like Dan Rather and Peter Jennings. Whoa. I wish I'd written that. Turns out they sit in front of a camera by Ikegami Electronics that slightly blurs the complexion while keeping everything else in the picture razor-sharp. Sort of like putting the burlap bag over the subject's face instead of the camera's lens. Has anyone heard of this camera? I guess we'll all be seeing it's 'fountain of youth' effect on the airwaves. Now if they could just invent an audio filter that takes the ruts out of one's personality 🙂 Paul
#4479From: Timothy LiebeApr 7, 1995 10:25 AM
Paul: >Turns out they sit in front of a camera by Ikegami Electronics that slightly blurs the complexion while keeping everything else in the picture razor-sharp. Sort of like putting the burlap bag over the subject's face instead of the camera's lens. Has anyone heard of this camera? I guess we'll all be seeing it's 'fountain of youth' effect on the airwaves.< This is from a camera? That sounds more like a postproduction trick to me (sorta like how Costner is allegedly having hair digitally added to his image on WATERWORLD so he'll look less bald…<g>) Do you know how it works? >Now if they could just invent an audio filter that takes the ruts out of one's personality :-)< Oh, jeez, Paul–do you REALLY want everyone to end up sounding the same? Don't we get enough of that now? 😉 Best, Tim
#4595From: Paul VendrickApr 12, 1995 7:11 AM
<<That sounds more like a postproduction trick to me (sorta like how Costner is allegedly having hair digitally added to his image on WATERWORLD so he'll look less bald…<g>) Do you know how it works>> Tim, I've got no idea how it works. I just saw the blurb. It's not a post job; the camera actually does it. It adds blur only to a small zone on the screen that presumably it can track. That's why I was curious if anyone knew about this camera. I've never seen one, but I thought maybe some of the NAB'rs here would see it at the show. –pv
#4604From: Timothy LiebeApr 12, 1995 9:35 AM
Paul: >Tim, I've got no idea how it works. I just saw the blurb. It's not a post job; the camera actually does it. < Okay–just thought I'd ask… Thanks, Tim
#4625From: KidsNewsApr 12, 1995 9:24 PM
Gentlemen: Let me jump in here and say I work at a station that has 4 Ikegami 377 studio cameras that have that feature. It 'smoothes' the wrinkles out of the anchors faces. Let me ask the engineers tomorrow eactly what its called and how they do it. (I'm just a producer, not a techie,so I'll check with the pros on this..) Dave Fisher
#4636From: Timothy LiebeApr 13, 1995 8:56 AM
Dave: >Let me jump in here and say I work at a station that has 4 Ikegami 377 studio cameras that have that feature. It 'smoothes' the wrinkles out of the anchors faces. Let me ask the engineers tomorrow eactly what its called and how they do it.< Hey, thanks! I'd like to hear about this… Best, Tim
#4658From: Paul VendrickApr 14, 1995 7:31 AM
Dave, hi. <<Let me ask the engineers tomorrow eactly what its called and how they do it. (I'm just a producer, not a techie,so I'll check with the pros on this..)>> Cool. Funny tho. "KidsNews uses wrinkle smoothing camera." I don't know why that strikes me. <g> Thanks for checkin' this out, Paul
#4893From: Bruce ColgateApr 22, 1995 3:22 PM
>>Has anyone heard of this camera? I guess we'll all be seeing it's 'fountain of youth' effect on the airwaves.<< The Ikegami HL-57 has a detail circuit that decreases the amount of detail inserted in the picture area dominated by flesh tone values (a certain #degrees from burst). This is a user selectable value. It actually works well. I believe Sony's 600 & 700 also has a similar circuit (actually, I should say algorithm, as both these cameras are DSP cameras). -BC
#4902From: A J. SOLOMONApr 22, 1995 11:32 PM
>Has anyone heard of this camera?<< While thumbing thru the spring issue of Videography, I noticed in an ad for the Hitachi Z-2000 the following — "Talent will love the softer more youthful look Digital "Fleshtone" Detail achieves by reducing facial blemishes." Seems this feature is beginning to show up on more Hi-end cameras. Maybe R&D for this feature is being funded by rich ageing anchors <G>. arnie
#4947From: Paul VendrickApr 24, 1995 10:31 AM
<<by reducing facial blemishes>> Arnie, I've grown kinda fond of the 'shot through gauze' look. Which I think was taken to new heights in Lucille Ball's version of Mame. Still, no amount of softened Fleshtones could make me look at Andy Rooney. Paul
#4958From: Timothy LiebeApr 24, 1995 2:18 PM
Paul: >I've grown kinda fond of the 'shot through gauze' look.< I dunno–I kind of prefer the "dead, wrapped in platic" look myself… 😉 Best, Tim (who's been watching TOO much TWIN PEAKS on Bravo lately…)