#Trade Up?
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Hi there….I am considering up-grading my Mac IIci to either a Turbo 601
-100mhz or just buying a 8100-100mhz. I have a few questions.
I'm currently running a (Daystar 040-40mhz with a 128 cache)…what kind of
trade-in could I expect from it, if I purchase a (Turbo 601 -100mhz) card for
my IIci? And what do I need to do to get the ball rolling on this?
Are there any "Compatibility" problems with the Turbo601-100mhz card? What
happens if I have utilities/games/Inits/CDEV's etc. that are NOT Power Mac
compatible? You either run 030 or Power Mac? Does the software switch back and
forth "automatically"?
I also have a (Radius/SuperMac Thunder 24 bit video card)….will it operate
correctly with the 601-100mhz? New ROM?
And System Software? I'm currently running 7.5 for the NON Power Mac….So what
additional stuff will I need to install for the 601-100mhz Daystar Card? Just
install Power Mac Software?
I'm currenly using (20-megs of Ram)….will I need more for Power Mac
applications? Freehand/Photoshop/Painter/Word?
Looking forward to your reply!
Sincerely,
Rich Leffler
>>I'm currently running a (Daystar 040-40mhz with a 128 cache)
>>…what kind of trade-in could I expect from it, if I
>>purchase a (Turbo 601 -100mhz) card for my IIci?
To trade in the 40 MHz Turbo 040 to the 100 MHz Turbo 601, your upgrade cost is
$816.
>>And what do I need to do to get the ball rolling on this?
Download the Universal Upgrade form from our forum here on CompuServe (MACAVEN,
Section 6, Software Library). Fill it out, and fax it to our Upgrade
Department (404-967-3018).
>>I also have a (Radius/SuperMac Thunder 24 bit video card)
>>….will it operate correctly with the 601-100mhz?
>>New ROM?
You will have to contact Radius for a possible firmware update. For SuperMac
products, you will need ROM versio v3.0 or higher.
>>And System Software? I'm currently running 7.5…
You have what you need as far as System software requirements. You will need
to re-install the System for any Macintosh.
>>I'm currenly using (20-megs of Ram)
>>….will I need more for Power Mac applications?
Check with each software vendor as to what they require and suggests for
PowerMac native appliations. PowerPC software does require more memory, but
for everyday work, 20 MB should be enough. If your needs exceed "everyday
use", then may need to purchase more memory, but that depends upon your use.
For example, Photoshop v3.0 needs 3-5x the file size allocated to it in order
to work efficiently.
Hope that this helps. Thanks for your continued interest in DayStar products.
Bill Waits
DayStar Digital
Hi Greg….thanks for all the info concerning the 601-100mhz upgrade.
I'm a little fuzzy on this…
<<To trade in the 40 MHz Turbo 040 to the 100 MHz Turbo 601, your upgrade cost
is $816.>> So, $816.00 is what "I" pay to upgrade to the (601-100mhz) with the
trade in of my (040-40mhz with 128 cache)?
Are the 601-100mhz available now…or is it a back order thing like I
experienced with my 040-40mhz card?
You didn't address my questions concerning "compatibility".
Is the 601 card going to be as "friendly" as my 040 card has been? I just
plugged it in and pretty much forgot about it….the 601 also?
What about when I have NON Power Mac native software….does it switch on the
fly or do I have to go into a control panel and switch it mannualy?
Thanks again for "Round 2" of my questions!
Sincerely,
Rich Leffler
>>So, $816.00 is what "I" pay to upgrade to the
>>(601-100mhz) with the trade in of my
>>(040-40mhz with 128 cache)?
Yes. The upgrade price is $816, and that is with a board swop. The StarPrice
of the board is $1799, so you are looking at less than half the cost of a newly
purchased board.
>>Are the 601-100mhz available now…or is it a
>>back order thing like I experienced with my
>>040-40mhz card?
Right now, we are experiencing a small back-log. This is due to a world-wide
(an much un-anticipated) shortage of SRAM chips and CPUs. We offer upgrades on
a first-come, first-serve basis. Everyone who faxes in the upgrade form is put
on our upgrade list, and when the product becomes available, the Upgrade
Department will contact the user to make arrangements for the product swop.
The sooner one gets on the list, the sooner you will be contacted for your
upgrade.
>>You didn't address my questions concerning
>>"compatibility".
As with any processor or System software upgrade, you will have to check with
each vendor of additional cards, periphrials, and software about specific
compatiblitlies.
By now, most companies offer PPC upgrades for existing software/hardware that
was not PowerPC compatible prior. These upgrades and their policies differ
widely, so check with each vendor.
>>I just plugged it in and pretty much forgot
>>about it….the 601 also?
As long as you prepare your system's software/hardware ahead of time to account
for the use of the PowerPC. You will have to update your System software,
possibly other software, and maybe hardware (internal cards, etc…), and
drivers for each. You have to prepare yourself, and your system, for a PowerPC
environment, because that is what you will be in for when you insert the card.
>>What about when I have NON Power Mac native software….
The PowerPC ROMs from Apple emulate the instruction set of the 68020 processor
when running non-PowerPC software. The System software has something called
the Mixed-Mode Manager which allows the automatic switching of emulation/native
code execution. This way, you can run non-PowerPC specific programs in the
PowerPC environment, but with a speed penalty (due to the emulation). This
speed penalty of running under emulation will differ for each program. To
assure yourself the optimum performance, you will need to run native PowerPC
programs.
Hope that this helps. Thanks for your continued interest in DayStar products.
Bill Waits
DayStar Digital