CompuServe Thread

worse than shovelware

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#49477From: Chris NessMay 29, 1993 8:25 PM
My friend Allen just came over to show me a new disc he got. He said he almost got me one too. The disk is "Mr CDrom Hobby Grab Bag Disk" 'published' by Max Systems of Winter Garden FL. It turns out that it is the same disc as "Romware Magazine" Vol.1 number 5 that I picked up about a year or so ago under its own name. Nowhere on the disc is there any reference that this is a re-issue of another disk. Maybe another question is whether it is even a legal knockoff or totally bootleg, but in any event it is deceptive. I guess we'll have to be even more observant in the future…
#49805From: John L. SandsJun 3, 1993 3:54 PM
Chris, That disc has a dataset that I published. The Stamp dataset was done in exactly 48 hours. That included my getting a library card to find out about stamps. I seem to remember a Jane's Aircraft demo on that disc that was pretty good. The best part was the Movie database with pictures. The original price for that disc was free. It was a givaway at the 1991 CD-ROM Expo in Washington, D.C. Cheers, John
#49810From: Albert DayesJun 3, 1993 6:55 PM
It was very good disc John. Even better with a personal demonstration from you. <grin>
#49867From: John L. SandsJun 4, 1993 11:37 AM
Thank you, Albert, The most interesting aspect of this disc was the disc label design. I believe that hardly anyone reads the Volume and Issue information printed on the label. The disc graphics were very similiar to the York Peppermint Patty foil cover. This would be used to determine which version the user had when calling customer support. The question would be posed,"Does it look like a Baby Ruth?, No? How about a York Peppermint Patty?" Cheers, John
#49920From: Chris NessJun 5, 1993 7:32 AM
I wasn't complaining abt the quality of the disk, I was complaining about re-issuing the disk under different dress and name without clearly marking that it was a re-issue of the same disk. A person doesn't need to buy two copies (even if it wasn't originally free). The disk itself is fine. One thing I have been trying to figure out; did they silkscreen over your original silkscreening? Or were they blank? The producers ID etched at the hub even shows the same batch number. If the silkscreened over, they did a good job. There is no evidence of the lower silkscreen.
#50045From: John L. SandsJun 7, 1993 9:56 AM
Chris, It was probably a repress. They apparently bought the rights to the disc from Nimbus. It would be more difficult to re-label an already labeled disc as it would raise questions as to why you were doing this. I know for a fact that we ran out of Vol 5 and there were no discs pressed that had no labels. You are right. Discs should have certain things on the label to inform the consumer as to: 1. What system it runs on; 2. Whether it is a repress of an older disc; 3. Whether the docs are on the disc; 4. Date of publication; 5. Who published it. Cheers, John