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#Mirage

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#173363From: david W. mennenohJun 2, 1995 4:49 PM
I'm having a little problem with Mirage and was wondering if anyone might have a suggestion. I've got a bunch of .tga's (60) that are a cross fade between two sets of moving images. I want to use mirage to make this now go from still to wavy at the midpoint of the fade and then back to still. I've got it setup right now with just two x-waves for ease of testing. Wave 1 starts at at 0 amplitude and goes to 7.0 this happens from frame 1 to 30. Wave 2 starts at 7.0 and ends at 0. This happens from 31-60. This seems like it should work just fine but Mirage jumps from frame 30 to frame 31. It seems the waves should be identical but they're not. All other settings are exactly the same. I've even tried rotating one wave 180' but no luck. I know using the .ifl will work, but I'd just like to find out why Mirage doesn't. DM
#173472From: Martin Doudoroff/KUBJun 3, 1995 1:41 PM
David: Unfortunately, I cant run any empirical tests right now, but I'll toss out a hypothesis. If I understand what you're doing correctly, you are asking X Wave 1 and X Wave 2 to behave identically given an identical set of parameters. Mirage *may* not work this way; there are random factors in use within the software, though it is never explained how. My guess is that the two wave sets are specifically designed to NOT behave identically. A possible alternate approach: perhaps if the wave sets do not behave similarly, they are at least internally consistent. Given a consistent random number seed, perhaps you can set up two instances of Mirage abutted in Video Post over your fade, and just use X Wave 1. Martin
#173519From: david W. mennenohJun 3, 1995 9:48 PM
Thanks for the reply Martin. I think you're right about Mirage being made to not have wave 1 and 2 the same. I did get it work though – with a little fudging. I had a 90 frame cross fade I wanted to ripple in and then out – to make a dreamy effect. I got it to work by rendering two sets of 45 frames and then cross fading the result in Razor Pro. Worked like a charm. Of course it would've been easier to use Mirage the whole time but such is the world of 3D animation. So how's the world of TSE. I still haven't had the time to sit down with it much. I keep reading about it and kicking myself for not getting it yet. But it's just one of those things. I still want to use it to make an .IXP that I can save off the current image in the queue and then call it back later. If only I was immortal…. <G> DM
#173748From: Martin Doudoroff/KUBJun 5, 1995 12:59 PM
>> I did get it work though – with a little fudging. I had a 90 frame cross fade I wanted to ripple in and then out – to make a dreamy effect. I got it to work by rendering two sets of 45 frames and then cross fading the result in Razor Pro. Worked like a charm. << Excellent. I just ordered Razor, and am looking forward to using it. >> I still want to use it to make an .IXP that I can save off the current image in the queue and then call it back later. If only I was immortal…. <G> << Well, if you do get around to it, the above script should take you about 15 to 20 minutes to write.
#174629From: david W. mennenohJun 9, 1995 8:42 PM
Great Martin, You'll like Razor Pro. Except for some minor little glitches it's a great product. Especially cool for sound editing and laying in sound effects. 15-20 minutes for that script eh? Sounds too good to be true! Well, now I just have to buy it. I'm putting on my list. <g> DM