Video Toaster
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For anyone interested…
The word from NewTek on the Video Toaster is…
Availability is now the October-December time frame…
(no guarantees, of course)
Jim Joslin
Was that 1991 or 1992?
Ron
Perfect retort! Commodore's graphics card will be out before the Toaster!
— Ethan
Ah, but you forget – the Commodore card is only 'technology', and might never
be brought out.
Ron
The commodore card might never be brought out, but considering it is
probably under 10 months from being releasable, I'd bet on its release.
— Ethan
Do you remember when the at bridge (supposedly 14mhz) was in releasable
condition months, if not a year before it was actually released? I'd guess
that Commodore marketing almost deliberately waits until an item is obsolete
before relasing it. I don't understand their philosophy, of course.
Ron
Ron,
It isn't their philosophy you don't understand, but the realities of bringing
out a piece of hardware. Besides, you cant possibly know when any given piece
of hardware became 'releasable'.
-larry
I'll freely admit that bringing out good hardware is not easy. And I wasn't
criticizing cbm re the pva, though it would be nice if they relased it, sooner
rather then later. CBM, though, has been known to release an item only after
it is mostly obsolete. On the other hand, the toaster situation has become the
ultimate vapor of the year. It was promised, pva was not.
Ron
What did CBM release that was obsolete that they could have done
something about? The 2088 was obsolete before the Amiga was even released! What
do you think: hardware is born? (This sounds obnoxious, its not meant that
way). As I understand it the AT BB works with minimal bugs (although the manual
is terrible), and that is worth waiting for. Also, the FCC takes its time
approving something!
— Ethan
Releasing an 8mhz 80286 bridge when much faster AT compatibles were out already
and even some 80386 machines were already out. At least they could have made a
fast AT board. Releasing a 68020 board when 68030's were already available on
Amiga, let alone other machines. That smacks of very poor timing and
marketing.
Yes, the products do work very well according to all reports. But 8mhz is
pathetic for an AT, and each board would have been much better received if
they'd come a year earlier.
Ron
Ron,
And just who said the AT bridge was in "releaseable condition months"
before it was actually released?
While Commodore may have had a working prototype, and several "beta"
models of it….can you tell me how many production units they had ready before
it was released. Do you tell me when the new software was finished, and the
manuals printed? How about the boxes and labels? Or the infamous FCC
approval? Or even when the production facilities became available?
Until you can answer all those questions, you should not make
accusations.
Don
Don, many of us believe that the at card could have come out a lot earlier.
Maybe we're wrong. And when that board came out as an 8mhz board instead of
the 14mhz many of us expected we weren't any happier. True, the software
probably did slow it down, probably including the microsoft licensing issues.
Ron
Ron,
What we "believe" (or perhaps "want to believe") and reality don't
always match.
I certainly can't speak for you, but I never heard anyone (official or
semi-official) say that the AT card would be anything except a "true blue
clone"….just as the XT card was a "true blue clone"…right down to the clock
speed.
Don