#Nautilus CD
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#: 900000 S12/Outbox (Recon)
21-Jan-93 13:48:00
Sb: #37601-Nautilus CD
Fm: F. PHILIP HAASE 74740,747
To: Kevin Barrow 71763,602
Ok, Kevin. I'm missing a piece of info. I have media player. How do I get it
to play the music. How do I open the file that has the audio tracks? When I
open it, it only allows me to play either .wav files or .mid files. BTW,
check out the respone from J re:SBP for $60. What do U think about the deal?
Phil 🙂
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As to that deal Phil. I don't know it seems too good to pass up. Check
with Lynne and see what kind of problems you might encounter when you try
to connect your CD to it. Up here in the great white north you would be
paying over 200 for the card alone. But if it will work with any CD drive
then I would jump at it. It seems like a pretty cheap way to fix your
problems.
Kb
Kevin:
All Sound Blaster cards use a proprietary port for CD-ROM
connection. Only the make and model of drive supplied by Creative Labs
will function. Also only the drivers supplied by them will work, but I
believe these are available on their BBS.
-Ed
Ed I know that the Panasonic drive supplied in the upgrade will only work
with the SBPro. But I am sure I've seen messages from other people using
the SBPro with other drives. But again that is why I didn't want to
suggest the SBPro to Phil.
Kb
Kevin,
The SBPro with CDROM kit actually contains _two_ cards. One is the
controller for the CDROM drive, which connects by a broad band cable and by a
thin audio wire cable to the SBPro audio card. This was a great surprise to
me, because folks on Prodigy had been saying that you saved a slot by
purchasing the kit. Thus I jumped to the conclusion that the CDROM cable
plugged directly into the SBPro card–but what I thought was the CDROM
interface is only the extra gameport.
My dealer says that I can install the CDROM controller card in the top of
my tower case–instead of having it in an expansion slot–but the two cables
supplied are too short for this. Thus I'll have to buy some sort of cable
kit, if it is available, to free the slot. There's nothing like being able
to physically inspect the hardware, I always say.
Anyhow, in my older machine (yeah, mine), the SLL CDROM controller card
sits next to my SBPro card, and they function together to play everything.
My plain SBPro Basic card did not include any CDROM interface card at all.
I have the SLL CDROM drive and SBPro audio card cabled, for the purpose of
playing audio compact discs, from the CDROM external jacks to the SBPro audio
input socket that you use to connect ANY external CD player and get SBPro
output to the desktop speakers. Is that clear enough for an electrician to
follow? You're not the only one who's learning stuff here.
On your recommendation, I bought MULTIMEDIA MADNESS today. It's pretty
good at explaining what you can and cannot expect your multimedia system to
do. Thanks. Should save lots of time.
Lynne
Lynne,
I'm not picking on you BUT, I just have to correct a few things:
1. The SBPRO card and SB-16 use a 40 pin cd rom interface of thier own
doing that directly plugs from the cd-rom drive into the sound card.
2. There is only ONE card to plug into the motherboard.
3. The CL sound card will only interface to the Panasonic/Matsushita CR521
series drive. [there are A, B, and C version]
4. IF you want to use another CD-ROM drive other than above you can do so
of your own choice[s]. The Mitsumi uses a special interface card. Others
use SCSI interfaces.
5. ALL SBPRO Basic, 1.0 and 2.0 and now the SB-16 ASP have thier own cd-ron
drive controller interface on the sound card. The SB 1.0, 1.5 and 2.0 do
not.
6. The only difference between a SBPRO basic and SBPRO is the lack of the
Midi hardware/software. There is NO difference between the sound cards.
7. ALL external/internal connections are labeled in the manuals for the
sounds cards.
8. I have no idea as to how the EXTERNAL CD-ROM drive kit is cabled. If
anyone has this kit or knows anything about it speak up.
The folks on Prodigy are correct about the ability to use one card for
sound and cd-rom interfacing. This applys to both CL and MV products. That
is one of thier primary marketing angles.
Lynne, after reading your message I'm having serious doubts about your
dealer!
Best, Scott
Scott,
Please, my dealer is fine–the problem is apparently with my note,
because I'm a beginner with hardware and didn't realize that there was so
much difference between the internal and external CDROM drive hookups.
I have two external CDROM drives that both work with the SB Pro Basic
audio card. One is a Sony Laser Library CDU 7205 (or Sony 535) that plugs
into its own controller card. With this arrangement–SLL controller in one
slot, SB Pro in another slot–my system will play anything supplied on a
CDROM disc. That is, .avi, .mid, .wav, cd_track, animation, .gif, .dib,
you name it! To get SLL audio CD output to desktop speakers, it is
necessary to connect the CDROM external jacks to the SB Pro "plug" for an
external CD player. (What do you call a female "jack", anyway?)
The other external CDROM drive came with the SBPro External CDROM
Multimedia Upgrade Kit. The kit contains a card with the "plug-in" for the
CDROM drive, and a Sound Blaster Pro Basic card (which looks exactly like
my stand-alone SBPro Basic card). The CDROM card does NOT need to be in an
expansion slot, my dealer said. However, it is currently occupying a slot
because the broad-band cable supplied in the kit is only 4" to 6" long, and
is too short to stretch to one of the non-expansion slot openings in my
tower case (about 12" away). I took BOTH cards out myself (and confirmed
their relationships in the SoundBlaster Upgrade Kit documents), because I
had to send my SBPro back to CL for the 486 "crystal patch." The
SBPro/Panasonic CDROM definitely works when plugged into card #2; the SLL
works when plugged into its own controller card; and I'm sure that the SLL
would not work if plugged into card #2 from the CL Upgrade Kit!
Lynne
>>(What do you call a female "jack", anyway?)<<
Lynne
Why you call her Jackie, of course!
Hee, hee
-Ed
Ed,
Gaaaah. Next time I'll look it up in the dictionary. Lynne <vbg>
Lynne
I call a "male" connector a plug and a "female" connector a socket.
Ala A/C line cord plugs and wall sockets.
I suppose you could also call a female jack a jackette. (;{)]
-Ed
Ed,
Did Kevin pass the baton of blonde jokes to you? 🙂 But thanks, the
plug/socket distinction was the one I wanted. My Random House unabridged
says that either is a jack, btw.
Lynne
And I suppose a female hibachi is a habitchi?
Scott,
Rereading your note, I see that my ignorance of hardware terminology
is definitely causing problems! The SBPro Basic 40-pin interface has to be
the thing that I'm calling the "broad-band" cable. This cable, with 40-pin
connectors on each end, connects the SB Pro audio card with what I am
calling the CDROM controller card (connection is inside the computer case).
The CDROM card is perhaps not a "controller," but it supplies the
external plug for the CDROM external drive to plug into (at the back of the
computer). And this "controller" card is more than a plug attached to a
slot cover: it is a card with pins and stuff. In addition to the 40-pin
interface cable that connects the two internal cards, there is a wire audio
cable that connects the two cards. My external drive kit is taking up two
expansion slots, but only because the supplied 40-pin interface cable and
the audio cable are too short to reach from the audio card to the
"controller" card, unless the latter is placed in the adjoining expansion
slot in my tower case. I guess this is the answer to your question about
the Creative Labs External CDROM Upgrade Kit?
I suppose that my stand-alone SBPro may _not_ be identical to the SBPro
that came in the upgrade kit–the stand-alone may not have the 40-pin
interface. (FWIW, I bought the more expensive external CDROM kit in the
hopes that it would be easier to upgrade to a faster CDROM drive later,
when the hardware settles down.) Hopefully, next time I won't need two
notes to give one reply!
Lynne
Thats news to me. My upgrade kit was installed before I got the system,
I've had to go inside a couple of times. But it didn't have anything to do
with the SB so I never even paid attention to it. I think my next setup
will be different, once I read through Ron Wodaski's book I'll understand
things much better. Also by listening to you people.
I know there is a company out of Toronto that sells cable kits. I'm not
sure if they have the interface cables or not but remind me when I get back
and I'll check it for you. The company name is Inmac.
>> On your recommendation, I bought Multimedia Madness today <<
Another check I love this.
Kb
Kevin, Panasonic, Sony, and Tenek or something like that have all made
CD ROMS for the SoundBlaster, but generally only one at a time. Apparently
it's whoever is low bidder when they make up the next batch of media kits.
Kevin:
All Sound Blaster cards use a proprietary port for CD-ROM
connection. Only the make and model of drive supplied by Creative Labs
will function. Also only the drivers supplied by them will work, but I
believe these are available on their BBS.
-Ed
Kevin:
All Sound Blaster cards use a proprietary port for CD-ROM
connection. Only the make and model of drive supplied by Creative Labs
will function. Also only the drivers supplied by them will work, but I
believe these are available on their BBS.
-Ed