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#morph extractions

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#49033From: Harry GriebJul 8, 1993 12:15 PM
Does anyone out there have any ideas of how to extract an intermediate object of a morph to ACAD or anything like that??? – clarification required- say you have a box for the start of the morph at frame 0 and a sphere at the end of the morph at frame 30, is there any way of extracting (for example) the geometry of frame 18? Any help on this one would be GREATLY appreciated, Jaan Lepp
#49284From: MARTIN G FOSTERJul 10, 1993 8:10 PM
Harry, I don't think so.
#49727From: Harry GriebJul 15, 1993 10:09 AM
WHY NOT?!!! The geometry is really there…… you can render individual frames….. all I would like is a dxf snapshot of one of the intermediate frames…….Is that a lot to ask?
#49736From: MARTIN G FOSTERJul 15, 1993 11:25 AM
Harry, >> WHY NOT?!!! The geometry is really there…… you can render individual frames….. all I would like is a dxf snapshot of one of the intermediate frames…….Is that a lot to ask? >> If the feature doesn't exist, then yes, it is a lot to ask. Especially of me, since I don't work for Adesk or the Yost Group.
#49758From: Michele BousquetJul 15, 1993 3:02 PM
O, those keystrokes that cut like a knife. <g>
#49824From: ALAN D. HORDJul 16, 1993 1:47 AM
Buy Visual Link. 🙂 Alan – Hords of Fun!
#49841From: Michele BousquetJul 16, 1993 8:42 AM
I am interested in Visual Link. Maybe you can tell me more about it (?) Does it eliminate the need to be fastidious with your AutoCAD drawings that you will transfer to 3DS format e.g. two adjoining walls that will have different mapping orientation in 3DS must be separate colour/layer/entity, or annoying little reference markers that AutoCAD types insist on putting into the drawing miraculously disappear? What does it do exactly? Michele
#49905From: ALAN D. HORDJul 16, 1993 5:59 PM
Visual Link is an ADS app that has to be loaded just like AME. It has it's own pull-down menu. It allows for you to map out your model by accessing the map libraries in 3DS and apply them. Yor can arrange hierarchies just like you would in 3DS. In fact, I wish I had the same link editing abilities in 3DS. It is valuable in that it provides the best export utility for 3DS. In addition, you can now import your modified 3DS file back into ACAD! Beats redrawing. There is no keyframer info stored, transferred, or otherwise saved w/ the model to or from ACAD/3DS. Sorry. 🙂 Enjoy Alan – Hords of Fun!
#49946From: Michele BousquetJul 17, 1993 10:13 AM
Re: Visual Link: <<It allows for you to map out your model by accessing the map libraries in 3DS and apply them.>> Does this mean you can apply 3DS mapping coordinates within the AutoCAD model? If so, how does it differentiate between different "objects" in ACad? <<You can arrange hierarchies just like you would in 3DS.>> Does this mean the hierarchical links get carried over into 3DS, or are these just for testing in ACad? Thanks Michele
#49975From: ALAN D. HORDJul 17, 1993 3:40 PM
Yes to both. VL accesses the texture map libraries that you've already created. You can apply the mapping co-ordinates to objects just like 3DS. I control objects by layer name. Hierarchies are passed to/from 3DS via VL. Try it, you'll like it (takes a while to master, be patient). 🙂 Alan – HOF!
#50083From: Michele BousquetJul 19, 1993 5:23 AM
Thanks. I now have a copy of VL (courtesy of Screen Artists) and I think I will have a play. Michele
#50008From: Craig Sharp [Mem TM]Jul 18, 1993 10:06 AM
Michele: VL allows you to set up cameras, lights, materials, smoothing, and mapping coordinates in your AutoCAD drawing and then write a 3ds file directly. While I'm not yet a VL expert, I don't think that any heirarchy other than what constitutes an object made up of elements is translated. I.E., no animation related stuff… There is no appreciable benefit other than a direct link between AutoCAD and 3DS and that AutoCAD users can set up their drawings to be sent off to some 3DS hack like yourself to get an animation made <grin>. The use of mapping coordinates are still difficult for architectural modeling, although I am more comfortable getting them in the exact location that I want in AutoCAD than I am in 3DS. VL does exactly what its name implies… and for an office of AutoCAD users with one 3DS whiz in it, it is a great tool with alot of utility. It also helps get non 3DS users to understand how they need to build a model in AutoCAD for appropriate use in 3DS. C#
#50012From: Yost GroupJul 18, 1993 10:45 AM
You can set one of the VL options so that your VL tree becomes the Keyframer hierarchy. (At least you could last time I looked at the product, shortly before shipping.) As you say, it's a good product for your situation, where there are a large number of AutoCAD users and only a few 3ds experts to receive the data. – Jack
#50082From: Michele BousquetJul 19, 1993 5:23 AM
Hi Craig! Nice to hear from you after all this time. Thanks for the VL info. As Greg Pyros can probably attest, it is a problem with Acad users that it seems no matter how many times you explain about 3DS objects and different materials, mapping etc. it is still difficult to get a workable model directly from an Acad user. (Except Jeff Hester, of course <g>.) From my forays into 3D Acad, I suspect that making a 3D Acad model requires an entirely different approach to usual Acad modelling, where you have to think in terms of 3DS Objects instead of logical Layers. It seems that Visual Link goes a long way toward at least making this new approach clearer. Hmmm, thinking about the next book… would there be a demand for a book on "AutoCAD modelling for 3DS" both with and without Visual Link? Oh look, someone just handed me an unopened copy of Visual Link… I think I'm going to be busy for the next few days… Michele
#50098From: Harry GriebJul 19, 1993 10:02 AM
Sorry Visual link does not give me the answer I need. That intermediate geometry in the morph is what I'm interested in…… I find the computer permutations sometimes much more interesting than any thing I could dream up. Maybe someone will read this and really come up with an answer… Thanks Jaan