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#Monitor connector ?

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#154480From: Hilary SzymanowskiJun 29, 1994 9:12 AM
Does anyone know where I can purchase a 23 pin connecting plug – which will fit the Amiga ? Is there such a thing as a "converter" type gadget/connection for the monitor output of the 4000 – which will allow me to use one of the PC type monitors. Otherwise to go from the 23 pin connector to the standard 15 pin ? Be glad of any info'. Regards, Hilary.
#154495From: Gary KleinerJun 29, 1994 11:18 AM
Hilary, I beleive that the Amiga will not work with PC monitors because of the scan rates. A good source of cables of any type is Redmond Cable, (206) 882-2009. Regards, Gary
#154531From: Hilary SzymanowskiJun 29, 1994 6:18 PM
Thanks for the tip on Redmond – Gary. For the last two years have been using one of our Amiga 2000's with a SONY high definition monitor. No problem…. just made up the inter connect cable for analog RGB – and adapted a 25 pin connector to fit the bastard 23 pin on the Amiga. Modern monitors – of most breeds – have a wide enough frequency span to match that of the rather outdated Amiga line. The late – but not lamented Commodore liked their Amiga owners to think that ONLY a Commodore monitor would work… hence the 23 pin and a lot of doubtful information. Sell more monitors that way! All the best, Hilary
#154544From: Gary KleinerJun 29, 1994 8:33 PM
Hilary, "rather outdated Amiga line"! them is fightin' words here in the Amiga User's Forum. The scan rates on the Amiga are for compatability with Video signals. Gary
#154676From: Hilary SzymanowskiJun 30, 1994 6:21 PM
Gary… old boy… I did not say that the Amiga was poor, unfriendly, cranky, or other bad things. Just said it was now outdated! The only thing that kept it alive were the patents protecting its video capabilities – which were (and are) excellent. If it had been possible to "remove" Commodore's management five or six years ago, and replaced the with folk who had the future of the product in mind – rather than their own greed and complete ignorance of marketing= the machines would be miles ahead pof the race. I hope they find a "sponsor" who will save what remains from complete fade-out… Regards, Hilary.
#154680From: Gary KleinerJun 30, 1994 7:24 PM
Hilary, What do you mean by outdated? I understand that the other platforms are just now catching up in terms of multi-tasking, and that the Amiga GUI is still a lot easier to use than windows. Gary
#154794From: Hilary SzymanowskiJul 1, 1994 7:54 AM
As far as I know…. during the last year the R&D on the Amiga declined to a trickle. What is more, many of their protective patents expire fairly soon – so their unique technology will be fair game to all comers. Plus the fact that they have already lost – by layioff and attrition – some of their brightest technical people. I was visiting GVP (a few miles away from Commodore) last week… and heard the local scuttlebut. As soon as one lets up on R&D… you start to fall behind – especially in the competitive world of computers. Years ago I bought one of the first computers dedicated to video. This was the SONY SMG. An excellent machine, and the FIRST ever to use the then new 3.5" disk system. So I have been through this type of trauma before! From my point of view…. I would let Commodore die, but try and sell the Amiga technology – if it is not too late. All the best, Hilary.
#154800From: Gary KleinerJul 1, 1994 10:46 AM
Hilary, To be sure, this perios of uncertainty is having a negative effect. Let's hope NewTek sticks with it, as they have kept the Amiga alive for the past few years anyway, Gary
#154508From: John Sobernheim(TCR)Jun 29, 1994 1:32 PM
Hilary, There should have been a 23-15 pin adapter in the box! I have some extras here so I will send you one out immediately. This connector is _not_ going to allow you to use a 31.5Khz monitor with the 4000 (at least not practically) but will allow you to hook up a nice multi-frequency monitor like the CEI-1962 (15.75-35+Khz). One more thing to keep in mind is that if you plan on using any multi-frequency monitor with a NewTek Video Toaster, you will need a device called a Sync-Strainer from Prevue Technologies (I have them in stock at $59.95) to fix some sort of problem the Toaster has with multi-syncs. This adapter also functions to adapt the 23pin Amiga Video output to a 15pin output. If you use a 1084 or or 15.75KHz monitor you do not need the Sync-Strainer. -John
#154541From: Jim SteeleJun 29, 1994 8:13 PM
Hilary I was able to get 23 pin connectors from an outfit called DALCO at 1-800-445-5342. This was about 8 months ago… They only carried the soldertail version in 23 pin. The part # was 40575 for the male and 40580 for the female. 95 cents each… This comes from their catalog #20 page 75 if they ask. BTW, CBM did make an adapter that converted the 23 pin to a 15. I think it came with the monitors rather than the computer. It used to be sometimes available thru CBM parts. You could try SMG, the guys that handle CBM's parts now. -Jim MOS via Autopilot & Amiga
#154697From: Erik FlomJun 30, 1994 9:28 PM
As others have mentioned, you _should_ have gotten the C= 23-15pin adaptor WITH the 4000. (At least that's how I got mine.) However, if you're using the Toaster, you'll need the SyncStrainer, instead of the C= adaptor. Have Fun! Erik Flom