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#Probs in NT???

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#178346From: Bill RouadyJul 3, 1995 8:43 PM
When I try to run Animator Studio on my NT machine. It just freezes on the opening screen. I've got 16M and a big swap file. The other components (Sound, player, etc.) work fine. It seems to hang up on the initiliazation phase. Looking for ideas!! — Bill Rouady
#178353From: dave aguilarJul 3, 1995 9:15 PM
>> When I try to run Animator Studio on my NT machine. It just freezes on the opening screen. I've got 16M and a big swap file. The other components (Sound, player, etc.) work fine. It seems to hang up on the initiliazation phase. Looking for ideas!! << hi Bill. AStudio runs under Windows 3.1 and WFWG 3.11. some have managed to get it to run on Win95 build 490 and NT 3.51, but the program was not designed for either. there is a patch and a rework for Win95 and NT due out around August, as well as a free upgrade policy. for more details, post to Mark Gerhard (product manager) at 71732,3306. hope this helps. just curious… have you tried changing the icon properties to point to ANIMATOR.EXE instead of FLASH.EXE? for some this has worked. -dave
#178574From: Bill RouadyJul 5, 1995 5:26 PM
Dave – Thanks for the feedback and the word on the upcoming update. I have a mild annoyance with Autodesk in regard to the whole NT thing. My reason for the shift from DOS/Win (other than desire for a more robust system) is most clearly centered around Autodesk's announcement of 3-D Studio moving to NT. It seems ridiculous to wait for this to occur without preparing for it in advance by having other software NT-ready and to also get our feet wet in the NT system. Yet, it also seems that Autodesk is the least NT-capable at this time. Most of my other software transitions without much hitch. Businesses cannot make a transition of this nature overnight, and I hope that Autodesk recognizes this and could provide a little more help in being able to shift the system over a bit more smoothly. As it is, 3-D Studio does not work on NT at all, so that transition will be at the tail end. I wouldn't mind hearing other voices on this matter. — Bill Rouady Eyeball Productions
#178605From: John EllisJul 5, 1995 7:29 PM
Bill, I've been active here on the forum and with regard to NT, and I can't say I understand you're comments. There has been a historical unprecedented release of information regarding the next release of 3DS, which was centered around the idea that people did in fact need advanced notice. So it sounds like what you're saying is, you just heard somewhere that 3DS was going to be running on NT and went out and bought it… That to me sounds like you or your dealer did not research the issue. Adesk's policy on disclosing future releases is *not* to… they made an exception in this case because they knew people need to be able to plan. I find your argument rather unpalatable, because a little research would have shown the consitency that has been evident from the start on how to best handle and make that transition as smoothly as possible… it sounds like all of a sudden there supposed to come out with an R4 NT upgrade to make the transition smoother… which is really quite rediculous, and if you knew what was involved for the next release, you wouldn't have such notions. I think when you're running a business, you need to find out alot more than you have with regard to this whole issue… Autodesk is not to blame for any our your misunderstandings… elaborate lengths were gone to try to make this as painless as possible… I don't know how you got out of the loop or whether you were even in it, but had you been you would have been fully apprised of the situation from Day 1. What else can I say except sorry to hear it but I think its your responsiblity to understand what's going on in your industry, the information is available… right here, and has been all along. John
#178841From: Bill RouadyJul 7, 1995 7:45 AM
>> What else can I say except sorry to hear it but I think its your responsiblity to understand what's going on in your industry, the information is available… right here, and has been all along. << John — I believe there is a slight misunderstanding. It wasn't the info that was lacking, and I do appreciate AutoDesk's early publicity of the matter. The issue was this: Until recently, 3D-Studio upgrades usually came out in the Fall, I am aware that the NT shift will occur later than that. Irregardless, it wasn't a matter of "running out and buying NT" but rather deciding when would be a good time to begin transitioning as 3-DS is not the "only" software that is used. Other software needs to be tested on NT and various upgrades of those packages are necessary to purchase. The networking features must be implemented and streamlined efficiently. I expected that a number of months would pass with the reality of dual op systems until the whole operation could run NT. What has been frustrating has been that the vast majority of software, both DOS and Win 16bit, has made the transition rather smoothly. The two biggest exceptions have been 3DS and Animator, with 3DS being the package leading the reasons to shift. No I don't expect 3DS-R4 to be ported to NT, but I do expect Animator Studio (being received in June, 1995) to be able to work effectively on operating systems that generally handle other 16 bit programs without a hitch. It appears my comments may have come across as a personal attack on AutoDesk. That would be a fault of communication. I just am trying to determine if others experience frustration on this point and to understand what efforts people might be doing. I noticed the files to run 3DS-R4 on NT in the library, so it seems others are trying. In regards to the forum, I have been on the forum nearly 2 years. I am not vocal, I generally "listen" and only respond to messages to which I have a rock solid answer. I respect your opinion and position and hope that the anger I illicited was temporary. Regards and apologies, Bill
#178927From: John EllisJul 7, 1995 4:43 PM
Bill, I conveyed anger…? Now that is a curious reading. Apparently we're not communicating at all… I find your comments quite inconsitent with what you have stated regarding your time here on AMMEDIA and the policies that have been stated on numerous occassions with regard to Autodesk. That was my point. I'll leave it at that. John
#178607From: dave aguilarJul 5, 1995 8:01 PM
>> Businesses cannot make a transition of this nature overnight, and I hope that Autodesk recognizes this and could provide a little more help in being able to shift the system over a bit more smoothly. << hi Bill. i agree that making platform transitions is not something that happens overnight. many folks who currently use Adesk DOS apps will be waiting long after the NT version of 3DS ships simply because they use other DOS-based-only add-ons to 3DS. also, the 3DS NT product will not be a "release 5" of 3DS… although it will offer all sorts of new capabilities as it exploits the NT environment, it will also be lacking in several DOS-based features (we have heard for example that the EXTREMELY powerful keyscripting ability in R4 DOS version will not be available in first release of 3DS NT). transition is just that. it is ultimately up to the consumers to be smarter than any purchasing situation, and personally, i can be patient, knowing that the NT versions of Autodesk software will come along eventually and that i'll migrate to them as it becomes practical to do so for my work situations. 🙂 -dave