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#Flipper Problems

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#179950From: Paul BonseyJul 13, 1995 3:41 PM
When I try to start up Animator studio I get Flipper error Close/Ignore. What ever I choose it crashes windows out to a DOS prompt. Can you help. Paul.
#179971From: dave aguilarJul 13, 1995 5:43 PM
>> When I try to start up Animator studio I get Flipper error Close/Ignore. What ever I choose it crashes windows out to a DOS prompt. << hi Paul. please tell us some specifics on your system… what exact OS are you using, how much RAM and actual free harddisk space you have, how big your swap file is, if you're using any memory managers, what your free resources (Program Manager) are reported to be before you launch AStudio, and what exact graphics card you are using. this will help us get an idea. -dave
#179982From: Paul BonseyJul 13, 1995 6:42 PM
My system consist of the following: 486DX100 1994 Award BIOS PCI/VLB 8 meg Ram, 36 meg swapfile Stealth 64 VRAM 2meg.PCI 850 meg HD w/80 meg availble + 420meg w/300 available MS-DOS 6.22/Windows 3.1 I don't use any disk doublers. I have another 8 meg simm on the way, but it should start up and run with 8 meg just not be able to run better than 320×200 res. I followed the troubleshooting tips that came with it and set my config.sys and autoexec.bat according to the sheet. Thank you. Hope to hear from you soon. Paul.
#180024From: dave aguilarJul 13, 1995 11:28 PM
hi Paul. here's what i have on the Flipper problems concerning this configuration: >> 8 meg Ram, 36 meg swapfile Stealth 64 VRAM 2meg.PCI << first off, we have had reports of this same exact FLIPPER error from others who have the with Diamond Stealth 64… apparently a conflict of some type with the drivers. resolves have included: a) increase the swap file size. big time. b) make sure SET TEMP= directory has plenty of space available c) quit program once in a while to re-initialize work files. (only does this when application is closed) d) it should run with 8MB RAM, but the way i often look at system requirements is "the minimum you can have on a system to just barely get it running"…. kinda like saying a teaspoon of gasoline is a minimum requirement to get the car running. <g> you really do need more RAM, and 3x swap file… get it up to 50MB if possible. >> swap file increase seems to have solved the problem for a lot of folks << e) do you get a specific message, something with STEALTH mentioned in it? several folks have swapped out a good ol SVGA card and found that the Stealth drivers were the challenge. Stealth/Flipper problems have been forwarded to Q&A for next patch. hope this helps. -dave
#180153From: Paul BonseyJul 14, 1995 3:59 PM
Thanks Dave. I got it running (sort of). The problem seemed to be with EMM386 with the inclusion of the Monochrome region in uppermemory. With that taken out it runs(sort of). I know a lot of people have had problems with the stealth 64 vram card and drivers with a lot of apps, but I usually never have any. My new problem now is when I start the program it comes up and looks like its all running but I can't load (open) any files. It always returns the message "Request for unsupported feature". Why??? I am running Version 1.0, I just bought this so I don't know if there are any patches or updates yet. I look around the forum and haven't seen anything. Thanks again. Paul
#180162From: Nik Grant [adesk]Jul 14, 1995 4:45 PM
"My new problem now is when I start the program it comes up and looks like its all running but I can't load (open) any files. It always returns the message "Request for unsupported feature". " I haven't been able to find the error string you report (I have a utility which looks for text strings in binary files). The closest I've seen to your situation was loading a lot of programs, so that my system resources were low, and then trying to play animations I'd opened in AAStudio. They seemed to be playing, but the image never changed. This seemed mysterious as I would have expected an error or something. Are you running other things? Are your system resources low?
#180244From: Paul BonseyJul 15, 1995 1:45 AM
Are you running other things? Are your system resources low? I'm not running any other apps at all. As a matter of fact, I have to cold boot, then run AAstudio first thing upon Windows start up. I think my main problem is just simply not enough RAM even though they claim it can. Thanks for your reply. Paul.
#180178From: dave aguilarJul 14, 1995 6:25 PM
>> I got it running (sort of). The problem seemed to be with EMM386 with the inclusion of the Monochrome region in uppermemory. With that taken out it runs(sort of). I know a lot of people have had problems with the stealth 64 vram card and drivers with a lot of apps, but I usually never have any. << i'm writing this down <scribble scribble>… thanks! Yeah, Diamond Stealth has had probs with other apps. i'm always reluctant to point fingers at any particular manufacturer though, having seen the incredibly unpredictable synergy of apps and hardware that run fine by themselves. the mixing and matching is usually the problem cause. it's kinda like medicines, you know? by themselves, aspirin and cold medicine and antihistamines and postnasal drips and cough medicines and stuff probably are fine. pour all of those into a bowl and drink it down and you don't know what kinda bugs your system's going to experience. <ggg> >> My new problem now is when I start the program it comes up and looks like its all running but I can't load (open) any files. It always returns the message "Request for unsupported feature". Why??? << i am clueless with this one. where are the files being pulled from? floppy? cdrom? harddrive with AAS on it or other harddrive? network drive? also, what does Program Manager report as available resources when you try opening files? >> I am running Version 1.0, I just bought this so I don't know if there are any patches or updates yet. I look around the forum and haven't seen anything. << no updates or patches yet (but being worked on and available very soon). -dave
#180243From: Paul BonseyJul 15, 1995 1:40 AM
Hi. I called Autodesk and Derik faxed me a list of about 50 files that I had to delete by hand then reinstall it again. Now it works sometimes. I usually have to cold boot, then run it first thing upon windows start up. I think a big part of my problem is just not enough ram though. When I was getting the flipper errors and still do sometimes it say flipper caused a gp in QTNOTIFY.EXE. Quick Time for Windows is it????? Do you know what QTNOTIFY is? Now as I am working on a file (EDITOR WINDOW) all of a sudden I crash out to a DOS prompt. Thanks for your help. Paul. PS: You what's funny is one of my best friends names is Dave Ralph Aguilar from Burney CA.(it's a small world after all, it's a small……….)
#180252From: dave aguilarJul 15, 1995 2:50 AM
>> I called Autodesk and Derik faxed me a list of about 50 files that I had to delete by hand then reinstall it again. Now it works sometimes. I usually have to cold boot, then run it first thing upon windows start up. << hmmm. not good. >> I think a big part of my problem is just not enough ram though. << could very well be. RAM is like priority one around here. second is swapfile size. >> PS: You what's funny is one of my best friends names is Dave Ralph Aguilar from Burney CA.(it's a small world after all, it's a small……….) << there are an alarmingly high number of us in the world… we shall soon take over the planet. <gggg> -dave
#180508From: Nik Grant [adesk]Jul 17, 1995 9:20 AM
"there are an alarmingly high number of us in the world… we shall soon take over the planet. " Dave, when you take over the planet, could you see that the Flipper errors get taken care of? Thanks.
#180553From: dave aguilarJul 17, 1995 2:25 PM
>> "there are an alarmingly high number of us in the world… we shall soon take over the planet. " Dave, when you take over the planet, could you see that the Flipper errors get taken care of? << i'll ask Dave, Dave and Dave to look into this. <g> -dave
#180481From: will taitJul 17, 1995 12:58 AM
Paul, 16 meg minimum RAM, 4X SWAP file, very large temp area, keep your hard drive defragged. I am using the program 6 – 10 hours a day in production with 64 meg ram, over 200 meg swap file, blah, blah, blah. It's ok. with 16 it will do things as long as you keep the drive clean and a big swap file. Hope this helps. Will