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#Amiga can't do biz

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#21302From: Matt SentellAug 21, 1989 12:13 AM
Ben, Re: Definition of monochrome. Yes, I follow you, and I apologize for my oversight. For some reason I have never thought of grey scale monitors as monochrome, although I certainly knew this by definition. Actually you mentioned the DSP as a big step forward in sound technology, which I feel is understating its role. As for the 2500 supporting a MMU, but not the OS…exactly the point. Many people criticize the NeXT as just an assembly of features available as additions to many other computers, but miss the point that the developers (hardware and software) can count on these features being in every system out there. Therefore support for the MMU and DSP will be expected. As for color capability, I believe I mentioned earlier, if not to you then to someone, that the absence of color is a significant limitation, but one that Jobs is addressing. I guess we will have to disagree as to the NeXT's future. I see its appeal as being much more than what we have discussed (ie, hardware). As with all things, we'll just have to wait and see. Matt
#21308From: Black Belt SystemsAug 21, 1989 12:54 AM
ok, I agree – we disagree. <grin> When I say "a big step forward in sound technology", I'm saying big things. I'm a musician and an engineer – I've designed audio systems for arcade machines, and know what the guts are – exactly. I've designed real time video and audio processing systems, including real time filtering and demodulation of various kinds of data digitally. I realize what the implications of a fast signal processing chip are, and again, I laud the inclusion of it in any computer – even one as poor as the NeXt is. What I always assume, and often don't consider form the laymans point of view, is that typical modems, including fax of course, are audio devices – period – when it gets down to the data that goes out the line. SSTV and the original fax are also straight audio, although with much higher density information than fax or 9600 baud modems can carry; A siganl processor would chew it up in a hurry anyway. Of course there is audio analysis capability, effects generation, encryption, decryption, multiplexing, plenty more – buts it's still, at it's base, an audio processor, period. I like it – I just didn't go into detail enough for you, I guess. One thing I *will* say is that I would like to see such a thing in the Amiga 3000 – further, I'll say it to the right people (making note). After all – since that poor rotten apple guy has only had this one good idea, we certainly oughta pay attention to it. <wicked grin> And you're correct on another score; the strength of the NeXt in that area is that _every_ machine has the sucker. There's something we can't catch up to. On the other hand, he can't catch up to every machine having… * more than 30 (Thirty!) graphics modes; * 4 channel dma driven d/a sound * blitter driven line, pixel, and area handling; * Multiple User Interfaces * IBM, Mac, and Amiga compatability * Standard Video refresh rates * Inexpensive Genlocking * 4096 simultaneous colors * analog, digital joystick capability * light pen capability * Mouse capability –Ben–
#21368From: Kelly JordanAug 22, 1989 4:57 AM
Hi Ben, DSP might be available on the Amiga by the end of winter. It is available now, if you want to go through a bridge board. Here is a message I just got from HamNet:
#21369From: Kelly JordanAug 22, 1989 4:57 AM
<continuation> Cheers Bob ———————– I think this board is supposed to be SCSI based, but will have to wait to find out. Hopefully the SCSIDirect will be fixed by the time this becomes available. 73, Kelly
#21402From: Black Belt SystemsAug 22, 1989 9:48 PM
he's not the only one – there are several DSP based RTTY/Packet systems brewing currently. –Ben-