#Amiga Illiterate
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Hi! I need some information on the Amiga… and what it can, and can't
do. I am totally Amiga illiterate. What I do know is that I have a
Commodore 64 from the $595 days! Its been in a box so long, I'm not sure I
could boot it if I dig it out.
* Is the Amiga, in any form, IBM (MS-DOS) compatable… running good ole'
DOS Applications?
* I've heard about a "video toaster" board to utilize the advanced sound
and graphics. What type of compatability does this thing have? Can I use
it with any video format (ie. Hi8, Pro BetaCam SP, or Umatic 3/4")?
* Does anyone here use the Amiga for editing / producing video effects
footage? Whatta ya think?
* Just for kicks, what's the ballpark cost of a fairly "loaded" (BIG HD,
M's o' RAM, HiRez Video) Amiga system? And the video toaster add on???
Thanks in advance for the response. I'm at that critical point of "to buy,
or not to buy…" I've had good luck with response from other CIS forums
on purchase questions… I entrust my penny jar to your judgement.
John Konen
72747,2350
John;
I am not one of the video types but….
*Yes the amiga will run dos applications. There are at least three ways
that I know of… BridgeBoard (an full blown PC/AT on a card), ATonce (a PC
type board that shares part of the machine), and IBeM (an emulator).
*Not certain about the toaster but believe that it will work with all
mentioned.
*Many folks on the forum use the Amiga for professional video production.
*Probably about $7K (could vary alot).
Hopefully you will get responses from far more knowledgeable people.
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bill
John:
Here are two sources of information on the Video Taoster:
1) Newtek (the manufacturer of the Video Toaster) has a section here in the
AMigaForums in AmigVendor… they'll be delighted to send you literarture
describing all of the capabilities of their product, and they also sell two
video tapes that show off the toaster.
2) Send an Email note to Frank Vanella (76527,723) of Spot Productions.
Frank runs a Ca company that does video and radio advertising spots and
uses the toaster extensively for video production. He can guide you opn
what type of equipment he has found to work best, and what ancillary
products/software you might also need to accomplish what you want to do.
BTW, it's hard for us to answer your requests anymore specifically, because
you have NOT told us exactly what it is you want to do!
An A2000 will run you about $1200. Serious rendersing will require a 68030
board running at around 28Mhz… figure around $1500 + another $300 for
some memory… then the toaster itself will cost around $1400. Hard drive
pricing is easy to check out… just look in computer shopper for the size
scsi drive you want. So, you can get a good strong system (sans video
equip like VTR, TBC, etc) for around $5000.
– Whapping from the North Coast Michael
Lets go through these one at a time:
1) IBM compatibility. Sortof. It depends on the type of IBM application
you want, which machine you buy, and how much you're willing to spend for
IBM compatibility. If you get an Amiga 500, your only real choice for IBM
compatibility is a unit called ATOnce, which basically allows you to boot
your computer as a 286 based IBM AT. CGA or monochrome graphics. No
hardware capability.
With anything but an A500, you can get a Bridgeboard. This is basically
either an 8088 based PC or an 80286 based AT on a board. You can add IBM
hardware into slots on the machine (And thus get VGA or super VGA output or
added sound capability) or it can run CGA or monochrome mode on your Amiga
screen in a window.
With a 68020 or 68030 based Amiga, you can get IBeM, which is a software
emulator. Fairly slow, and again not good graphics.
So basically, IMHO, if you're using software which you can stand running
on a monochrome or CGA screen, you can probably get it running on the Amiga
given the right hardware or software. But otherwise, I wouldn't depend on
IBM compatibility.
2) The Video Toaster is an add on board which does all kinds of video
effects. 24 bit framebuffer. 24 bit framegrabber. Genlock, Character
Generator, Special Effects Generator (with all kinds of wipes, fades,
zooms, etc.), Luminance Key, 3D rendering and paint software. To very
quickly cover it. <grin> It uses Composite NTSC input and outputs, NOT
S-Video. Also, you might need a Time Base corrector for inputs from video
tape recorders and the like. (Companies make board level TBCs which plug
into the Amiga, BTW.) The Toaster only currently works in Amiga 2000 and
2500 machines.
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3) The Amiga has been and is used in a number of places for editing and
video effects, especially now that the Video Toaster is available. It's
built in support for NTSC makes it good for all kinds of video work.
4) A really good Amiga system (lets assume you are going for a Toaster
and work from there, so: Amiga 2000, GVP 50 Mhz 68030 board with 16 Megs
ram, Multisync monitor, 300 MB Hard drive) woul run you in the rough
neighborhood of $6000-$7000, most likely. The Video Toaster costs about
$1600. Add in a dual Time Base Corrector card for another $1000, leaving
you with one really neat video studio setup for about 10K.
It might help us to know what information you need if you could better
define your absolute requirements, goals, and optional frills you might
want.
–>Steve Bennett