CompuServe Thread

Flic palette

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#118243From: IgnacioAug 14, 1994 7:20 PM
Hello, here goes another one. 3DS3 file documentation says that 3DS could play flics with more than 256 colors, if you have the drivers, but can produce unpredictable results… Can 3DS3 with Vibrant drivers do that? May be there's a third party's flic player and/or drivers that supports more than 256 colors, I don't know, but as far as I know, rendering to a .flc file means _always_ 256 colors. Or not? In one line: How can I play 3DS hi-color realtime animations? This little monster can play 320x200x256 so fast I'm sure it would give an acceptable frame rate with 16 bit flics. A help on this? Cheers!
#118345From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Aug 15, 1994 11:59 AM
<< 3DS3 file documentation says that 3DS could play flics with more than 256 colors, if you have the drivers, but can produce unpredictable results…>> Ignacio, I'm not familiar with the section we say this. Could you tell me where in the documentation we state this? The problems is, the FLC file format is 256 colors. That's it, aint no more. There are some companies (like tempra) that developed an FLX format for 16 bit color animations, but they are out of business (I heard) and it never really caught on anyway. Bottom line, to get 16 bit color, it would not be an Autodesk file format. -brian
#118411From: IgnacioAug 15, 1994 7:20 PM
Yes, flic=8bit. That was the idea in my mind until I read this: From 3DS3.DOC, that comes with 3DS r3. V.9. RUNNING A FLIC WITH DRIVERS SUPPORTING OVER 256 COLORS Only use flic drivers intended for running 8-bit flic files with 8-bit (256 color) flics. Attempting to run a standard 3D Studio (8-bit) flic with a flic driver designed for more than 256 colors will most likely cause serious, unpredictable results. In some cases, it's possible to configure VIBCFG to run a flic with many than 256 colors, depending on the display board you are and the driver you select. There is no way for the program know what type of file you will be running under your so it is not possible to warn a user that unwanted will occur. This is the paragraph that made me dream with superflics… The idea of 16bit flics (or any format for realtime anims) was pretty attractive, but hard to fit with Autodesk software. That's why I asked. But, don't you think they worth a try? Thanks Brian. PS: PC's are running so fast now (and faster every month) that 16bit flics are a posible dream. I have a 48Mb pentium60 that runs a full-screen motion flc of 300×400 at 45 frames/second with aniplay, so a 16Flic player is a reasonable wish in 1994. May Autodesk do it first!
#118568From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Aug 16, 1994 11:04 AM
Ignacio, I think you are interpreting that paragraph wrong. << Only use flic drivers intended for running 8-bit flic files with 8-bit (256 color) flics.>> Here we say that Autodesk recommends only using the Vibrant selections that are 256 colors for FLIC playback. <<In some cases, it's possible to configure VIBCFG to run a flic with many than 256 colors, depending on the display board you are and the driver you select.>> This is poor wording. What is being said is that with some video drivers you can play a Flic file (still only 256 colors) when your Vibrant driver is configured so that you are using a video _driver_ that supports more than 256 colors. I can see how you would get confused. However, the intent here is to warn about selecting a wrong driver, NOT to tell people there are FLIC files with more than 256 colors. Sorry for the confusion. -Brian