#P90&ATI_probs
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I am trying to get 3DS3 to run on a new Intel 90Mhz PCI/ISA system. I built
this system using a true Intel motherboard (Plato) w/64Mb ram, Adaptec PCI SCSI
controller, several Conner 1.05Gb drives and an ATI ProTurbo 4Mb PCI bus
(Mach64). All of my applications run great except 3DS! I am configuring the
video drivers (3DS VIBCFG) and selecting the ATI ProTurbo board. I am using
the Vibrant drivers dated 6/15/94. If I try to test the selected video mode or
continue on and run 3DS I get the error:
Abnormal Program Termination:Page Fault
CS:EIP = 000Fh:001F413Eh
I have tried to reload 3DS from scratch, to no avail. Any ideas out there.
Thanks
SSH –Graphic Realities–
Sounds like a pretty custom hardware configuration, Scott. Phar Lap is
probably choking somewhere in the memory management process, but I'd have no
idea where. Perhaps one of the hardware experts here on the forum could give
you some ideas.
– G
I had the same problem with the first p-60 I bought about 6 months ago.
Everything ran great but 3DS would bomb with that message while starting about
2/3 of the time. I even tried to replace my simms. I ended up selling that
machine and getting a new 90mhz Gateway and the problems ceased. Good luck.
Mitch
Is this a PCI/ISA P90 Gateway machine. I was told that Gateway used the
same Intel Plato motherboard in there PCI/ISA P90 systems. Are you using
the 4mb MACH64 PCI card in this system. Let me know if this the case and
it all works!
Thanks
SSH –Graphic Realities–
>Is this a PCI/ISA P90 Gateway machine. I was told that Gateway used the
same >Intel Plato motherboard in there PCI/ISA P90 systems. Are you using
the 4mb >MACH64 PCI card in this system. Let me know if this the case and
it all >works!
We had some recent problem with our PCI detection code on a Gateway P90.
This was fixed in 1.0.4 Inline, so this might fix your problem.
Chuck Walbourn – Vibrant Graphics
When and where can I get 1.04? Doesn't seem to be online here.
Thanks- Mitch
>When and where can I get 1.04? Doesn't seem to be online here. > >
Thanks- Mitch
It has been sent to Autodesk QA. They will post it when they are happy with
it.
Chuck Walbourn – Vibrant Graphics
Yes, but my card only has 2meg. The system works great except for the
notorious Mach 64 /3DS delays (which might be fixed judging from the last
message). I highly reccomend Gateway's stuff.
Mitch
Seems like a pretty safe configuration (I avoid the ATI cards like the plague,
though – waiting 5 minutes to get into the Materials Editor is just a bit much
for me <g>). You probabaly have a memory conflict: time to do some sleuthing.
If you need suggestions for getting to the bottom of this, let me know.
John Tissavary (LUNA cie, inc)
I have tried booting without loading anything. I pulled out every card but
the MACH64, connected an IDE drive to the embedded IDE controller, removed
the Adaptec PCI SCSI controller and reset the MACH to factory defaults.
This did not help. If I remove the 2mb upgrade from the MACH64 it works
fine in 3DS3, but I don't think that there is a hardware problem with the
memory upgrade. I am able to run any resolution and number of colors in
windows, with all 4mb installed. I finally broke down spent about an hour
on the phone with ATI and Intel and they are blaming the Vibrant drivers.
Mitch Gates (up the thread) said that he was using a Gateway 90mhz and it
works fine.??? I was told that Gateway was using the same Intel board that
I am using. I just got rid of a Pentium 66mhz because of compatibility
problems. At least the MGAII+ 4mb in that machine worked with 3ds, even
though I was never satisfied that the vibrant drivers pushed the card to
its max refresh rate (it never seemed as solid in 3ds as in Windoz). I
thought that I would try the MACH64 because is was cheaper and faster.
This may have turned out to be another mistake. This is starting to really
bother me! Let me know if you have any other ideas or suggestions.
Thanks
SSH –Graphic Realities–
The ATI is definitely cheaper, but there's a good reason for it <g>.
The MGA is faster, I believe, at higher, 24bit resolutions. I run 3DS at
1152x24bit, and don't think the ATI is as fast. Also, the MGA works. Sounds
like you need to get a different VGA card. I personally hate both ATI and
Diamond, but that's just me.
John Tissavary (LUNA cie, inc)
> The memory apature is automatically set with the PCI Mach 64. The apature is
> set starting at about 25Gb. I am still trying to get this card to work with
> 4Mb. It works fine with 2Mb. ?????
> SSH -Graphic Realities-
Please post any findings, as I have been concidering this card for my new
P5-90.
-David
YOu may want to upload your config.sys and autoexec.bat. I have a machine
very similar to yours here in the shop. I might be able to lend a
suggestion.
I have even tried booting without loading anything. I pulled out every
card but the MACH64 and connected an IDE drive to the embedded IDE
controller. This did not help. If I remove the 2mb upgrade from the
MACH64 it works fine in 3DS3, but I don't think that there is a hardware
problem with the memory upgrade. I am able to run any resolution and
number of colors in windows, with all 4mb installed. I spent about an hour
on the phone with ATI and Intel and they are blaming the Vibrant drivers.
Mitch Gates (up the thread) said that he was using a Gateway 90mhz and it
works fine.??? I was told that Gateway was using the same Intel board that
I am using. I just got rid of a Pentium 66mhz because of compatibility
problems. This starting to really bother me! Let me know if you have any
other ideas.
Thanks
SSH –Graphic Realities–