#No more Amiga Toasters?
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During the NAB show, NewTek indicated that current Flyer owners could get the
Toaster bay, without the Flyer card, for $5000 less. Therefore, the base bay
would be $3000 and the one with the LCD face would be $5000.
Hank
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>>Therefore, the base bay would be $3000 and the one with the LCD face would be
$5000.>>
Could someone please refresh my memory… What is the necessity of the LCD
screen on the Flyer bay and what is the difference (not in terms of cost) with
or without it?
Thanks
BarryVedros
ISI
The LCD screen offers the user field editing and playback without connection to
a PC or Amiga. The black buttons are labeled on the screen by the software it
runs. Therefore, you can field record an event direct to disk (the disks are
removable), edit it and play it back as soon as the event is over.
Hank
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The LCD screen operates as a Toaster preview monitor and the buttons around it
are supposedly to give some basic control functions for doing edits in the
field. If you don't plan on editing in the field, of even taking it into the
field yo probably don't need the LCD.
wmc – via Autopilot!
Wanye
So all the features are redundant in the software on the main CPU?? The box
just acts as an alternate control interface??
I think we all salivating for the ability to take a disk system out into the
field (I am) for this price. But I have to get my present Flyer making enough
$$ to justify an alternate/redundant system.
Thanks for the info
BarryVedros
ISI
Has anyone thought about a -POSSIBLE PROBLEMS- with taking large, sensitive HDs
out into the bumpy, heat-filled, FIELD?
We are having enough problems getting our static HDs to work with the Flyer!
Also, at this point, as far as I know, there are only 2gig drives that fit into
the Flyer bay. Hmmm, ten minutes of recording time — that's real useful out in
the field <sarcastic grin>.
Hi Sam –
We had a Flyer with a 4GB Quantum and 2 2GB Quantums in a canvas tent in a
field, next to a large pool used for sailing 14' boats during the Special
Olympics. The machine booted and ran every day for ten hours or more. After
breaking the system down, we ran HQ-5 video into the Quantum drives and they
all performed flawlessly. Although it didn't rain, so moisture wasn't a factor,
we did dirt dust the chassis several times.
Hank
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With the digital disk based camera backs and low-cost digital tape formats I'm
not sure how useful it is to take the flyer into the field. It's especially
risky if it is your only edit system. So for low-end users it will probably
saty studio based and the exteranl bay will facilitate moving it between
workstations. The higher end folks that are going to be interested in digital
field aquisition are probably willing to pay the extra for a box that will
clamp to the back of their existing cameras in place of the old analog tape
dockable. They were so happy when the dockable took over from the portable
(allowing greater mobility or the reduction of the field crew by 1 person) that
I don't see a lot of people wanting to go back to the camera-wired-to-other-box
arrangement if there is an alternative.
wmc – via Autopilot!
I know it's probably unrealistic to take the thing out into the field – like I
want to carry more junk around with me for 10 -20 minutes of video. However, I
have to explore all the possibilities. My bosses are technology- gobbling
gremlins. If it's new and looks cool to an unknowing client, they'll spring $$
for it.
(good thing they don't cruise this forum <G>)
I get the benefit of playing with some of the newest and hottest toys (and use
them to get some work done in between the tours through my edit suite) I also
get the headaches when I have to explain that the newest and greatest $15,000
toy is still in beta test (and then explain what beta is) or pre-release. Or
when I have to perform circus acts for potential clients with the all the NLE
transition possibilities.
Bitter – maybe, bored – no.
BarryVedros
ISI
James,
Well, hey – you can't have the toys without the headaches, eh?
I'm just happy I didn't take my linear system down and sell it or some such.
The plan was always to work the Flyer until I was confident it coudl handle the
work before "mainlining" it. I had originally figured I would be mainly NLE by
now, but, if I stick with the Flyer it looks like that may not happen until
mid-late '96 if my guess is right (i.e. clean full function 4.1x with necessary
third party add-ons for time coded deck control, rendered layer effects, audio
editing [or studio 16 integration], clip logging and EDL importe/export …).
wmc – via Autopilot!
<<Therefore, the base bay would be $3000 and the one with the LCD face would be
$5000.>>
And add the price of the Flyer and we're right back where we started from:
$8000-$10,000 range. Not to handsome of an upgrade if you already own the
Amiga Toaster.
Now up on the CIS Internet via AMosaic! Too bad it isn't with AP.
Chris Shepard: 030/50 Toaster A2000 & MacIIfx via Emplant.
I know Chuck has had a few inquiries regarding upgrades to Toaster Bay from
Amiga owners. NewTek has offered discounts in many areas, so now we want to do
the same for the Toaster Bay. Why NOT?
Hank
Videology, Inc Where you always get P.O.M.P. and
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Hank,
What's the going street price on an Exabyte 2505. I'm in the market…
Hi Sam –
Checking out your model number and I come up with 8505's and 8250's. Could you
give me more info on the 2505, and I get back to you Monday or Tuesday. Finally
getting some R&R.
Hank
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