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3DS & ROOFS

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#122486From: TBrunoSep 7, 1994 1:52 AM
Hi again, I'm back with my roof problem. I hope someone could give me some direction. I have a very complex roof I need to model. I can't really loft a triangle along a ridge line. This thing has gables and valleys all over. I've got autocad files of the elevations which I can dxf in. I've got a sketchy plan view of the eaves. I've tried a varity of ways to build this thing but to no avail. I've tried bring in each elevation as a shape and lofting each side a short distance thinking I could move the back verti around and boolean the thing together to get the valleys. This doesn't seem to be reliable because I am forces to move the polygons apart in the shaper, move them backtogether in 3ded and snap will not let me line them up nicely. The complexity rapidly overwelms me. I have another project that has a nice plan view of the roof, but again I must seperate out the polygons to get it into the 3ded and then alignment is a pain I guess it really comes down to…for complex roofs…must I construct my geometry in Autocad? I really don't see anyway to build this thing in 3ds in a reasonable timeframe. Can you build a roof based on Elevs only or Plan only? HELP!!! thanks gods Todd
#122530From: Ted BoardmanSep 7, 1994 9:47 AM
Todd Check out page 7-77 in the 3DS manual. That will allow you to create the roof section individually, then align the "back" verticies to the other roof plane. Or, am I not understanding the problem? With some practice you should be able to model everything in 3DS. TedB !^NavFont01F0007MGHHGE1AAE8
#122569From: TBrunoSep 7, 1994 11:43 AM
Ted, Your solution was the one I settled upon. but the complexity of my projects (which might be easy for others) quickly overwelms me. As I told Greg…maybe I'm just using the wrong tool for the situation. Huminoids are neat but they were developed outside of 3DS (or at least that was the impression I got from a 3D seminar on them) I guess I just need to learn my arsonal a little better thanks for the quick reply Todd
#122576From: NAAUGSep 7, 1994 12:24 PM
/* With some practice you should be able to model everything in 3DS. */ Everything? Everything? That would be a HUGE 3DS file, Ted. <ducking> -dave
#122630From: Ted BoardmanSep 7, 1994 4:10 PM
>Everything< Yipes, I sound like a salesman, don't I Dave. See you Friday TedB !^NavFont01F0007MGHHG42A1E3
#122746From: NAAUGSep 8, 1994 3:44 AM
/* >Everything< Yipes, I sound like a salesman, don't I Dave. See you Friday */ All I can say is, you must have one heckuva big harddisk guy. 🙂 Have a safe trip. Looking forward to spending all Saturday with you. -dave
#122553From: Sep 7, 1994 11:07 AM
Todd: Back in the days when I practiced Architecture before computers (quit laughing, guys!) complicated residential roof plans were always a b*tch to draw. One of the tricks we used was to draw a quick section of each area to translate to plan view. It might help here. Or, to make your life simple, get Facade from Eclipse Software. Excellent ACAD add-on, draws walls, windows, doors, and complicated roofs easily. David Cohn [73417,167] frequents this forum as well as ACAD, he can fill you in on the details… Greg Pyros
#122568From: TBrunoSep 7, 1994 11:43 AM
Greg, Again you pop up with ideas! (I've seen Facade and it may be the solution I had just hoped to do it all within 3DS) I guess my final question is "Is 3DS the best solution for all modeling"? probably not. The 57 chevy viewpoint did, I would guess, was not modeled in 3DS I can see a method to producing what I need in 3DS but with the built in editing tools I don't see a fast way to do it. I was hoping for that 'secret' method that would shave time off the model creation. It doesn't seem to exist. Thats fine I just wish I hadn't picked the mother of all architectural projects to start 3DS with. (a nice ranch with a simple shed roof would have been nice :} ) (the roof of the Hotel del Cornado after an earthquake comes to mind) So much creative stuff has come out of 3DS but, I don't really know how many outside tools were used to get the data in. Thanks for the support Todd
#122617From: Sep 7, 1994 3:11 PM
Todd: My motto is "use the best tool for the job." An entire house can be built with a screwdriver, but a hammer sure comes in handy at times! Greg Pyros