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#POCO Beta testers wanted

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#124715From: CyberdreamsSep 20, 1994 2:36 PM
David- I have this need for a Poco… and thought I would see if you think it is a good idea. when I stamp a brush it would be nice if the eage of the cell was smoothed but not the inside. Dpaint has this but not Ani. I think this would be helpfull for animations -Brandon
#124781From: David WrightSep 20, 1994 9:25 PM
Brandon Hummm…! not quite sure if I know precicely the effect you have in mind. Is it like first paste a cell, and then apply an Ink – like smooth, UnZag, Unbuzz just to edges of cel paste? any signifigance to width of overlap (like 2-32 pixels) as adjustment ? need to use with optics? any other special requirements? Is this a routine you need, want, can't live without, think would be cool? got any money in budget?<g> Seriously if you have a need & $'s it would make a signifigant difference in priorities. If not, I will add it to growing list of POCOs to play with as time allows- it sounds like it may be useful. Thanks much for input Dave Wright – Wyeknot
#124801From: CyberdreamsSep 21, 1994 1:49 AM
Thats right to stamp down a cell and have only 2 or 3 pixels get the smoothing of the outer eage. It should be for optics and sprite pasting. regarding $ I will have to pass it buy my Producer can you Email a aprox price that it would be? and how soon it will take? I will run it buy him. we are finishing up Simant now but it would be nice for the next project. make sure you Email Brandon ID #74724,3165 and not this acct# Thanks -Brandon
#125102From: David WrightSep 22, 1994 2:18 PM
Brandon I think I have a tempoary solution for you. you can probably reduce it to a macro 1. insert extra frame or use swap screen save you cel if you are going to need it again 2. clear screen 3. turn on One Color option "1" is hot key 4. use opaque ink, easy to see color [white? if key color is black] 5. paste cel you should have a solid [white cel] "Blob" 6. select hollow ink 7. use fill or seperate (single color ) on "Blob" you should now have a out line of the "Blob" line width is one pixel 8. select opauqe ink & white color again make sure brush is 1 pixel (you may want to experiment with bigger values 2-3) 9. select edge tool – click on background outline should be 3 pixels (I didn't count them) 10. Get Cel and delete work frame or swap back 11. select Unzag, or Sooth or what ever INK and paste New Outline Cel over previous Cel pastings If you're freehand pasting – It is going to be hard to line them up exactly! using grid or 2-3 pixels helps with out getting too chunky – but you have to do this first! I think this should also work for optics. making this a POCO isn't straight forward – don't have access to magic One Color option , or Edge – some of many things left out of POCO this incompletness is sort of a pet peve amongst POCOers – you get 90% of a program done and then find you have to reinvent something that is a single key stroke in Ani. Not to worry – I m sure there is a way. Any way this should give you something to use – and see what specifics need to change – for a program for instance I think maybe you may want to have a slider adjustment for outline width, but if it is something not used – then you would find it anoying, I think best way to discover these things is to use them a while and jot down notes – " I really wish ….." also helps justify spending money for tools – do the steps above and see how long it takes – if it is something you do a lot X minutes * Y times per week * $/minute * 52 = payback in a year Let me know what you think & I'll get an Email estimate to you soon.
#125312From: CyberdreamsSep 23, 1994 12:55 PM
Mike Thank you for your help! I will give this a try but it looks like having a custom Poco would be better, as I stamp down animated cells over background plates. the last animation was 350 frames each with animated cells moving all over the place! [lots of darn ants] it is to bad about the Poco coad, why can't we get this from Autodesk? I think any type of smoothing coad would be welcome as it lacks this now. And who can wait for one year for the windows ver <g> Gary could you help Mike on this? Thanks -Brandon
#125313From: CyberdreamsSep 23, 1994 1:00 PM
David I called you Mike sorry about that I am need of some sleep… -Brandon
#125348From: David WrightSep 23, 1994 8:01 PM
no problem – get some sleep … things allways work better in morning. dave
#125374From: CyberdreamsSep 24, 1994 12:46 AM
will do….