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#the prodigal son returns

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#124879From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 21, 1994 1:42 PM
to anyone who gives a toss <g>, just so I don't get into digressions about my (slightly) megatrip/vacation in obviously inappropriate sections of the forum, I thought I'd mention it here. I'm back in a hotel room in Southern California, looking for a more permanent home, following a 5 week, 10 country, ~6000 mile, overland jaunt around Europe – gosh my feet are tired <G>. Starting in frigid England and having visited family and friends (yes, I still have a few there) we set off for warmer climates. Travelling by boat, train, bus, and tree frog, we wreaked havoc in Belguim, Amsterdam (Netherlands), Mannheim (Germany), Innsbruck (Austrian alps), Brindisi (Heel of Italy), Corfu (North-West Greece), Rome (Italy), Nice (French Riviera), Barcelona (North East Spain, close to Southern France), Interlaken (Swiss alps), Paris (you tell me?), Ashford (Gateway to not yet open to the public "channel tunnel") and Sheffield (family home in England). Phew, I'm exhausted and will require at least another month off to recuperate and become fully, like way, laid back in SoCal again. We slept, for the most part, on trains, in cheap hotels or youth hostel type accommodations. Although, we could have afforded better I suppose, we found we'd meet far more interesting people that way (and we surely did). Plus, I'm much happier sleeping in a room full of strange, but friendly men and women, than paying 5-10 times more to be isolated from the riff-raff. One small complaint: the beds were mostly those damned metal spring things that sag in the middle – I'd rather sleep on a board or the floor, in fact we put the mattresses on the floor in Rome rather than endure the discomfort. I learnt a new sport. It's practised by international business travellers and backpackers alike: "international name-dropping". This is where you have a conversation and get "points" for throwing in the names of as many unusual and impressive destinations as possible in a seamless and natural way. The winner is the one who impresses his opponent so much that they admit defeat by saying something like: "Gosh, my travels seem so insignificant compared to yours." I found out I was quite good at this and proved a worthy adversary, even to new-age, English academics who seem to spend 6-months of the year travelling. Tough to beat people with that kind of advantage. Michele Bousquet would probably be a major player <g>. Favourite city: Barcelona. It's reasonably good value (though not as good as 1980), vibrant and safe street-life at night, architecturally astounding with it's modernist and gothic buildings (Gaudi's work is mind-blowing), good food with a variety of paella's (rice dishes) and bocadillo's (french bread sandwiches – thanks for the tip, Ana) even for a vegetarian. Runner-up: Rome. An interesting historical building or monument around every corner, most-likable and funny people. Least favourite city: Amsterdam (permissiveness gone amuck – massive drug and prostitution cultures). My wife hated it and insisted on leaving after just one night – possibly something to do with stumbling in on a gay-orgy in our youth-hostel dormitory room. But being frequently and legally offered heroine and 20 varieties of hashish may have soured things too. We had some good moments, though, and I probably would have liked it a lot more 10 years ago. I think we stayed in the wrong part of town <g>. Runner-up: Paris. Exhorbitant prices, but otherwise quite interesting. Favourite mountains: Swiss alps. Switzerland is rumoured to be very expensive but we did OK by staying in a great, inexpensive youth hostel in Interlaken and walking everywhere else. We hiked up from Lauterbrunnen to the North Face of the Eiger and it's glacier, then down to Grindelwald. Approximately a 15-20 mile hike with 6000 feet ascent and descent – smokers should take the train <g>. Best of vacation: Corfu, Greece. This is a great island for package tourists and backpackers alike, although we tried to avoid the former. September was a good time, since July and August supposed to be insane with moped and scooter noise driving you to distraction. The sea on the west coast is warm and very clear and is widely considered to have the most beautiful beaches in the Med – I won't disagree. I noticed a lack of large numbers of fish and wildlife – I think the Corfiots (locals) have caught/shot and eaten most of them. The prices are good value and probably the second best in the Med, after Turkey, except that car, motorcycle, and boat rental was more than America (although OK for the Med area). We stayed in double rooms: one was really nice with own bathroom and shared kitchen for about $12, one was less good but made up with an elevated, panoramic view of east and west coasts; and it was in a real greek-village (Pelekas), with real people – it cost a mere $9 per night (shared bathroom, no kitchen facilities). I hope I haven't waffled too much, but remember, this is after all the Take 5 section. Martin
#124890From: John StetzerSep 21, 1994 2:07 PM
Welcome back; oh, and the info/advice you gave to me to give to my friend (sister wanting get into making games) seems to have done the trick; they haven't been by to, er, well bug me about something I don't know, so thanks; much appreciated. John Stetzer JWS
#125081From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 22, 1994 1:13 PM
John, >> Welcome back; oh, and the info/advice you gave to me to give to my friend (sister wanting get into making games) seems to have done the trick; << thanks John, glad to be back and glad that my info helped.
#124902From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Sep 21, 1994 2:58 PM
Hi Martin, Sounds like you had fun..Glad to have you back safe! 🙂
#125082From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 22, 1994 1:13 PM
Jonas, >> Sounds like you had fun..Glad to have you back safe! << it's good to be back. I'm trying to catch up on all that I missed while away.
#124921From: Robert A. WeilSep 21, 1994 5:06 PM
Martin – Did you bring anything back with you? (That is, that doesn't require a doctor's attention). See you in our October meeting, where yours truly will demo Pennello and Razor. Give me a call! bob
#125083From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 22, 1994 1:13 PM
Bob, >> Did you bring anything back with you? (That is, that doesn't require a doctor's attention). << Not much. I did fulfill a couple of special requests: one for a bottle of Warninks Advocaat (a Dutch liquor made with eggs and wine), and one for a magazine of specialized contents (hmmm…). That's it, except for tons of memories, postcards, and photos (undeveloped, as yet). >> See you in our October meeting, where yours truly will demo Pennello and Razor. Give me a call! << Certainly. Razor sounds interesting and I've heard of a demo in LA of Animator Studio and other stuff that I may go to. Martin
#125118From: Robert A. WeilSep 22, 1994 3:01 PM
Martin – Let me know when/where the Animator Studio is to be demo'd. I and several others would like to go – and/or have them come down here to demo as well. bob
#125127From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 22, 1994 4:07 PM
Bob, >> Let me know when/where the Animator Studio is to be demo'd. << I'll get more details for you ASAP.
#125166From: Robert A. WeilSep 22, 1994 8:11 PM
Martin – Thanks. I picked up Schreiber's Explode Volume. I think it's the best "explode" currently out there. I'm not sure how things looked at Siggraph, but the Flock of Birds/Puppeteer demonstration in El Segundo was not successful – it didn't come together for Scot and the other guy from Schreiber. I wish them better luck at the next site. How did it go at Siggraph? bob
#125233From: Sep 23, 1994 2:38 AM
Bob: >> the Flock of Birds/Puppeteer demonstration in El Segundo was not >> successful – it didn't come together for Scot and the other guy from >> Schreiber. I take it you went to the morning session – I attended in the afternoon and all seemed to go pretty smoothly. What happened (or didn't happen) in the AM? Greg Pyros
#125321From: Robert A. WeilSep 23, 1994 2:46 PM
Greg – They weren't able to get the hardware to properly interact with the software – the limbs were connected to the wrong sensors, and strange "sprites" (they said, possibly the presence of so many metal chairs" were causing frequent jerking and moving of nodes in the wireframe figure on screen that did not match Scot's action. I heard from soemone else that the afternoon session went without a hitch. Must have been one of those quarky things that can happen when you have a complicated set up process. Hope to see the software/hardware in use again so that I can see it at its best. bob
#124923From: ROBERT RITGERSep 21, 1994 5:30 PM
Martin: Great to have you back! Did you eat at 'The Spoty Dog' (that's right they spelled it with one 't' in spoty) in Corfu? I spent an afternoon listening to Gary Glitter tunes on the jukebox while eating a mystery meat burger trying to convince myself it was like home after being away for a year. Don't hesitate with more anectdotes. Bob
#125084From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 22, 1994 1:13 PM
Bob, >> Did you eat at 'The Spoty Dog' << no, 'fraid not. Is it in Corfu town or Pelekas? We probably ate at Spiros' place – which could be thousands of places in Corfu since 40% of males are called Spiros after their patron saint. (Aghios Spirondon?)
#125134From: ROBERT RITGERSep 22, 1994 4:30 PM
Martin: 'The Spoty Dog' was in Corfu, Pelekas is where I was awakened by a sniffing blood hound to find a trailing shotgun armed farmer closing on me. He was slightly unhappy with me for chosing his turf for my camp out. 🙁 Bob
#124936From: Yost GroupSep 21, 1994 6:12 PM
wow… WOW! You have given me a vicarious experience of what "life on the outside" is like. <g> Gracias! Excellent reportage from abroad, Mishter Fishter. It's great to have you back in one piece, too. Interesting comment about Barcelona being your favorite, too. (Did Ana show you around?) I've got a friend from there who was living in SF for awhile and finally couldn't take it anymore here, so when back to Barcelona. She loves it there. (I'd like very much to visit one day.) – G
#125085From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 22, 1994 1:13 PM
Gary, >> You have given me a vicarious experience of what "life on the outside" is like. <g> Gracias! << You're welcome – my intent is to entertain. It was an incredible trip. I didn't meet Ana, although I contacted her. She was back in Florida already. She did give me some advice on what to eat <g>. Barcelona was a very pleasant surprise, I'd been there in 1980 for about 2-4 hours between trains (heading for Marrakesh, ultimately) and really hadn't even scratched the surface of how impressive the city was. Things have changed a lot since then, I believe, because of the general liberalization of things following General Franco's death and also a clean-up for the '92 Olympics. Do visit if you get a chance, and if you get tired of the city there's always easy access to more tranquil mainland areas and islands. It's good to be back, I do have a new appreciation for where I live and what good value America is – Europe ain't cheap anymore with today's dollar exchange rates. I've got a lot of catching up to do too, software wise. Anything dramatic happen while I was away? ciao! Martin
#125172From: Yost GroupSep 22, 1994 8:33 PM
>>Anything dramatic happen while I was away? As usual, it depends upon who you talk to and how you define dramatic. Naww… <g> – G
#124965From: ALAN IGLESIASSep 21, 1994 9:19 PM
Great to have ya back, matey! I think we need to have a "post-vacation party"!<g> -Alan
#125086From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 22, 1994 1:13 PM
Alan, >> I think we need to have a "post-vacation party"!<g> << I'll drink to that! It's good to be home (or homeless at home) again <g>.
#125015From: Accu-WeatherSep 22, 1994 8:05 AM
< tree frog?? > I'd like to see the size of _that_ frog! Ribbbbet. Oh yea.. Welcome back. Sounds like an incredible vacation. Thanks for the overview.
#125087From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 22, 1994 1:13 PM
Wade, >> Welcome back. Sounds like an incredible vacation. Thanks for the overview. << Glad to inform/entertain and happy to be back for some rest 🙂
#125345From: John N. JordanSep 23, 1994 7:13 PM
Europe rules! (sorta) I just had to comment on your trip, about half your list were places I absolutely loved (or had been to) while living in Germany. (Heldelberg, really close to Mannheim) Amsterdam- definately the pits. Mannheim- nice, basic old German city. Paris- yes expensive, cool monuments/museums/etc. Barcelona-sun, surf, good food. (except those things that look back at you on your plate!) Innsbruck-the Alps.. INTERLAKEN-my favorite. Great skiing, great view, great chocolate. Well, enough "name dropping" It sounds like you had a great time. Your Hostel idea was a good one. (except Amsterdam) The Swiss "Zimmer's" were fun too. You get to meet the family that owns the place, etc. My sister even got to sleep in the hayloft of a barn once! (she was young, the barn was nice/clean, etc.) Lucky guy. Back to the VR world now. 🙂 JNJ
#125366From: John TissavarySep 23, 1994 10:24 PM
Too bad you didn't like Amsterdam… it's definitely not for everyone, but I really love it. And the Reichsmuseum is a one and only. I'm saving my pennies and carving out a time for vacation (yeah, right…) – I've got to get out of here before I go insane! John Tissavary (LUNA cie, inc)