CompuServe Thread

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15 messages in this thread
#125885From: Gregory D. BallSep 27, 1994 5:43 PM
G, I wonder what it takes to get a simple thing like font examples, or a flic player that will play something other than 320×200. I don't understand how a $2000.00 plus package can't seem to deliver such simple needed aspects of a program. Most of the reviews I read on 3ds2 and on 3ds3 criticized 3DS for these two factors yet nothing is done and we are expected to go out, find, and download pieces that should be included to complete our 3DS programs. I just don't understand the lack of support for the customer. Greg Ball
#125906From: Yost GroupSep 27, 1994 6:48 PM
I try my best. Thanks, – G PS: John Stetzer correctly pointed out to you that there _are_ examples of all the .pfb fonts already on the WCT CD-ROM, in .gif format. Plus, we give away a player that plays any-res flics here on Compuserve, to everyone, free.
#125918From: Mark YankeeSep 27, 1994 8:48 PM
<< I try my best >> Gary, Your doing great helping people out here, keep up the good work!!! Mark Yankee
#125988From: ROBERT RITGERSep 28, 1994 7:49 AM
Greg: /_____________From your message_____________\\ I just don't understand the lack of support for the customer. _______________________________________________ PMJI, You've placed this message in the wrong forum. This is ASOFT where several people provide continuous daily support to all customers around the world. Some work for ADESK, some for Yost, some for themselves. You wanted the whining complainers forum, just type in GO INGRATE. <G> Bob
#126379From: Accu-WeatherSep 30, 1994 7:17 AM
Good one, Bob!
#126409From: ROBERT RITGERSep 30, 1994 9:23 AM
Yo Wade! Heading east any time soon? Bob
#126010From: John N. JordanSep 28, 1994 9:53 AM
Greg- The support here is incredible. I can get an intelligent answer to the most obscure question (beleive me, I've asked them) and usually get it the next day- or even later that day! ASOFT has the best tech support around, bar none. As far as features, there was a big wishlist for R4, and if you were around back then, you could add feature x or y to the list. They were all compiled together, and the most requested were done. There's even a permanant Wishlist section for things.. I've displayed 640×480 256color flics lots of times. Both in 3DS, and externally. Check the files sections for the players. I usually use the PD playflc by VRLI. Look in the CD for font examples. If you have the CD, you'll find them. BTW- R4 is already done. (for features, that is) I doubt anything will be added this late in the development. JNJ
#126452From: Gregory D. BallSep 30, 1994 11:18 AM
JNJ, Thanks for the info! Greg
#126119From: Robert A. WeilSep 28, 1994 10:00 PM
Greg – Way out of line on the "lack of support for the customer" thing. One of the things that people who have this program also have is enough self-reliance to ask the question in a way that will get answers. This is the forum where that happens, better than on any other forum I've seen. I'll give you an answer anyway – look in the Windows Shareware forum for a product like Fonter or Printer's Apprentice. Both of these utilities will allow you to load, view and printer complete specimen pages of every .PFB or TTF font on your system, used by 3D Studio or not. This will be a lot more useful than a simple picture of the font, in one size, in the manual. I think we'd all prefer Adesk continue their focus on enhancing aspects of the program and docs that will directly affect the usability and capabilities of the software, IMHO. rw
#126449From: Gregory D. BallSep 30, 1994 11:14 AM
Robert, You don't get it. It isn't about self-reliance, its about if the product is complete. I should not have to download anything to have completely functioning program. i.e. examples of all the fonts, even the cheapest programs contain fonts have easily accessible examples. I consider that Customer Support. And as for a player, 3DS has needed one for at least 2 versions now. Again Customer Support is the issue as I see it. So you can either allow me my opinion of what Customer Support is or be a jerk attempting to impose your definition of customer support on me. I think Gary and ADesk are capable of looking after themselves. Greg
#126630From: david W. mennenohOct 1, 1994 2:21 PM
Gregory, 3DS has a .FLC player. I don't know why you seem to think it doesn't. If you've installed your video drivers properly you can view .FLC's at any resolution you want. And, if you have enough memory you can also run a disk cache that will allow you to play the animations out of RAM. As for the fonts, the original fonts that were always with 3DS have always been pictured in the manual. The .PFB fonts aren't. You're obviously quite new to the program and so creating some images of fonts would be a good exercise anyway. You will get the best support on this forum you'll find anywhere. Heck, I answered your question. <g> If you participate on a fairly regular basis you can learn a ton. Dave Mennenoh
#126634From: Robert A. WeilOct 1, 1994 3:20 PM
Gregory – What I was getting at is that the tone used in the question has alot to do with the depth and tone of the answers you get back. You're certainly welcome to your opinion about what constitutes good customer service. An analogy would be entering a room full of people conversing at normal volumes, and asking your first question in a shout. Tone and approach is everything up here. You're right, Yost & co. don't need my defense. I merely reacted to your entree. My apologies. rw
#126164From: Jeff TuckerSep 29, 1994 4:15 AM
3ds will do anything you can think of. It is life giving and wonderful. The flic player on my copy of 3dsr3 plays 640 x 480 flics just fine. Can your hardware handle a bigger flic? I made myself a font example printout. this is much more helpful than anything on screen. Try 3ds, you will like it. Those reviews are just someone elses opinion. I always form my own.
#126453From: Gregory D. BallSep 30, 1994 11:21 AM
Jeff, Is this a flic player that is seperate of 3DS, that can be put on a floppy disk with a flic file and sent to clients? Greg
#126777From: Jeff TuckerOct 2, 1994 8:12 PM
No. I understand what you mean when you say they could have included the disks for something like AAplayhi or AAplay. But flics are a general format. I once bought a book on animation not related to Autodesk or anything normal and it had a flic player with it. It also had a painful ray tracer that makes me glad to have 3DS.