#WFWG drivers w/Stealth
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sorry if this appears 2b a duplicate posting..but I think this is the right
group, and I have done more research since the last posting:
I have added a new p5-75 to my rendering farm…all of my machines are running
windows for workgroups. When I try to start 3dsr4 from Windows, the screen goes
black and I have to reboot. (WFWG is set for a 1024×768 16m colors diamond
stealth 64 video pci w/4mb RAM)
When I try to run 3ds4 from DOS w/o a net connection..(as a workstation)
everything works OK (except that I get an error message that the network
drives aren't available…of course..) It is set for 1024×768 w/16.7m Vibrant
drivers. Everything runs fine except that I have no network connections…which
of course makes it useless
Any ideas that might help?
thanx for being there
Do you need to run 3ds under windows? I have my home setup as an old 386/20
running WFW and acting as network server. The other two computers have a boot
option to either start windows or to stay in dos. If they stay in dos, they
attach the drives on the network server using the "NET start full /yes"
command.
LAM
>> Do you need to run 3ds under windows?
I don't know if need is the word, Larry, but it is VERY convenient to
modify maps in Pshop and ALT-Escape switch to 3DS for test renders… and
back to Pshop and…
Ralph
Agreed. I wasn't sure whether he wanted to run under WFW just for the
networking capability, or whether he was actually running windows apps.
LAM
I seem to need to run 3ds4 in windows in order to get full all machines to
recognize each other….If one machine is in dos even with with the net
started, the farm doesn't seem to work.
In response to Ralph…my windows AND 3ds are the same resolution..
taking too much time to load anything can be the result of not enough
conventional memory available…I have started using NETROOM memory
manager…which itself may be the cause of my video problem…I will try that
now..
-mkh/h3d
>> In response to Ralph…my windows AND 3ds are the same resolution..
As are mine Micheal, although the pixel depths are different which is still
a video mode change. I mentioned switching to the Material Editor because
this workaround is quick and easy (and better than re-booting). Just
thought you might want to know how some of us were dealing with it.
Ralph
Ralph,
>> In response to Ralph…my windows AND 3ds are the same resolution..
As are mine Micheal, although the pixel depths are different which is still
a video mode change. I mentioned switching to the Material Editor because
this workaround is quick and easy (and better than re-booting). Just
thought you might want to know how some of us were dealing with it..>>
I have now gotten 3dsr4 (in 800×600 x65k in VESA mode ) to run in WFWG in
1024x768x16m . Though I am not as happy as I would like to be (I want 16m
colors), it is adequate.
Thanx for your response…
mkh/h3d
>> When I try to start 3dsr4 from Windows, the screen
>> goes black and I have to reboot. (WFWG is set for a 1024×768 16m colors
>> diamond stealth 64 video pci w/4mb RAM)
Michael,
Some video cards have a terrible time changing resolutions between Windows
and 3DS, my Viper Pro has the same glitch. Have you tried hitting F5 after
you switch to 3DS, this switch to the ME's different resolution seems to
kickstart the card and bring it back to life.
>> When I try to run 3ds4 from DOS w/o a net connection..(as a workstation)
>> everything works OK…
How long have you waited. I thought I was having problems with 3DS and the
Network, but figured later that it just takes MUCH longer to load with
NET connections.
Ralph
>> I have added a new p5-75 to my rendering farm…all of my machines are
running windows for workgroups. When I try to start 3dsr4 from Windows, the
screen goes black and I have to reboot. (WFWG is set for a 1024×768 16m colors
diamond stealth 64 video pci w/4mb RAM)<<
This card is not directly supported by the Vibrant drivers and there are some
qlitches. We use the same card (2MB only) and it usually works in DOS. For
running under windows you will have better luck configuring 3DS for VESA
instead of stealth. Just set up a second 3ds.set file (maybe called
3dswin.set?) with the different configuration in it. The add "set=3dswin.set"
to the 3DS.PIF command line. Then just execute the 3DS.PIF.
In any case you will probably have to use F5 to switch to the Materials editor
when you switch back to 3DS from Win because the 3DS video will be trashed.
>> When I try to run 3ds4 from DOS w/o a net connection..(as a workstation)
everything works OK (except that I get an error message that the network
drives aren't available…of course..) It is set for 1024×768 w/16.7m Vibrant
drivers. Everything runs fine except that I have no network connections…which
of course makes it useless<<
We currently run "net start full" from Autoexec.bat to load the DOS WFWG
client.
Then in our WIN.BAT we do "net stop /yes" to unload the DOS net drivers.
Windows then uses its net drivers.
When we exit windows, the WIN.BAT restarts "net start full".
BTW the easiest way to set up net connections for DOS is to set them up in
Fileman. DOS then just inherits the settings.
A bit of a cludge, but WFWG and DOS client software don't really work together.
MS really doesn't want people to use DOS anymore I guess.
Terry Gilbert
Forcade & Associates
You responded to the following message:
>>> When I try to run 3ds4 from DOS w/o a net connection..(as a workstation)
everything works OK (except that I get an error message that the network
drives aren't available…of course..) It is set for 1024×768 w/16.7m Vibrant
drivers. Everything runs fine except that I have no network connections…which
of course makes it useless<<<
>>We currently run "net start full" from Autoexec.bat to load the DOS WFWG
client.
Then in our WIN.BAT we do "net stop /yes" to unload the DOS net drivers.
Windows then uses its net drivers.
When we exit windows, the WIN.BAT restarts "net start full".
BTW the easiest way to set up net connections for DOS is to set them up in
Fileman. DOS then just inherits the settings.
A bit of a cludge, but WFWG and DOS client software don't really work together.
MS really doesn't want people to use DOS anymore I guess.
Terry Gilbert>>
I am not sure what you are trying to tell me here: Is it that i can run
3dstudio networked, using just the DOS WFWG client on all machines? If I use
WFWG and the DOS client then it's only a 1-way connection. I just tried running
the DOS clent server on both machines and they don't seem to recognize each
other's drives.
I don't understand why you load "net start full" (the DOS client) in the
first place if you take it out before you go into Windows?
I just use 'net start" in my autoexec.bat..then I don't have to unload DOS
drivers.
At what point in this scenario are you using 3dstudio? Is it in DOS or Windows?
My net connections and shared drives have already been set up in Window File
manager.
I am not sure why you exit windows to restart "net start full"…are you
grtting ready to use 3dStudio at this point?