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#AAS Output to Video

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#189536From: Barry J. DavisSep 7, 1995 9:53 AM
Just purchased AAS in hopes of using it to produce animation for output to video. Can you tell me what it will take to get a decent quality for reproduction on tape (not broadcast quality, but needs to be good enough for one generation of dubs) like 640X480 output to Hi-8. Looking for most cost effective but need clean results. I'm investigating two alternatives right now; Sanyo GVR 955 or DPS Personal Animation Recorder. Thanks, Barry
#189569From: Edward W. EichelSep 7, 1995 12:17 PM
have similar problem. background as artistl, not sophistocated as technician. please let me know your findings and the options you recommend. edward eichel
#189943From: Marc SolomonSep 9, 1995 3:38 AM
Barry, <<Just purchased AAS in hopes of using it to produce animation for output to video. Can you tell me what it will take to get a decent quality for reproduction on tape (not broadcast quality, but needs to be good enough for one generation of dubs) like 640X480 output to Hi-8. Looking for most cost effective but need clean results. I'm investigating two alternatives right now; Sanyo GVR 955 or DPS Personal Animation Recorder.>> Those options will both work, but I would go for the PAR (or the newer PVR) if possible, since single frame recording to tape is much slower, and puts undue strain on the drive mechanism. I have a 955, but don't use it for single frame recording, having recently purchased a FAST Video Machine – Digital Player/Recorder, which works great for recording animations, both 2D and 3D. -Marc
#190895From: Martin ThorpeSep 14, 1995 6:04 PM
Barry, I have a DPS PAR and AS. The problem is you can't render direct to the PAR drive from AS. You have to have the hard drive space somewhere else and render there. Then import the .TGA files to the PAR. Then realtime copy to VCR. The quality is fabulous. This is all because the A-desk folks write a temp file to the same disk as your target render output and the temp file is incompatible with PAR. The PAR route is the way to go, but AS doesn't make it easy. Regards Martin
#191010From: Barry J. DavisSep 15, 1995 2:23 PM
Martin, Thank you very much for your relpy. Glad to hear I'm on the right track and that I can get "fabulous" results with the PAR. But, I'm pretty new at this so could you please review a couple of points. First, I've got an .AVI file rendered on my harddrive. I wasn't planning any .TGA files so where do they come in? Can I output the AVI file or a sequential stack of frames to the PAR? If not, what's the intermidiate step? Two other related questions: 1) Can the transfer to the PAR include the sound which I've added in Soundlab? 2) Should I consider the new Perception from DPS instead of the PAR? Many Thanks.
#191136From: charles s. fadelSep 16, 1995 12:40 PM
Barry, I am in the same boat as you. Just about to buy a PVR actually. From what knowledge I have gleaned, rendering to a series of .TGA files will probably give you better output quality on tape. I guess you run 3DS but it probably doesn't matter what program you use. You output your files to a series of rendered TGA's, I am not sure of the exact logistics but you either render them to the dedicated hard drive connected to the PAR or you render them and then the PAR imports them to its hard drive. Either way, the PAR ends up with a series of files held on its dedicated hard drive that it then proceeds to dump in real-time to your tape deck. Which means 30 fps for NTSC. As far as making am AVI and then having the PAR put it to tape…. I will let someone else answer that. For the PAR to get quality of output it needs quality of input. A series of TGAs is superior in quality to an AVI. They take up more hard drive space, but it is being dumped to tape anyway. Another note on HD space, direct from the spec sheet on the PVR,"How much time per gigabyte? Betacam SP quality is acheived at about 4 minutes per gig. The PVR operator is free to choose the proper quality vs. storage parameters. A single frame of video might need as little as 30 Kbytes or as much as 260 Kbytes. Hope this was not too long winded and answered a few questions. charles
#191514From: Barry J. DavisSep 18, 1995 9:51 PM
Charles, Thanks for taking the time to respond. I understand the stuff about the frame stack of .TGA Files vs. an AVI file. Can you tell me, does this mean that you do all sound work after the animation is already in the PAR? I guess I 'm a little confused about how sound is being houndled. Thanks for the help. Barry
#191656From: charles s. fadelSep 19, 1995 4:03 PM
From what I can tell from the spec sheet, sound is recorded on a separate HD. NOT the dedicated HD. I guess you would sync them in a third-party program like Premiere or Razor Pro, but please don't quote me on that. The interface for the PAR or PVR might contain a way to sync A to V. charles
#191723From: Barry J. DavisSep 19, 1995 11:28 PM
Charles, Appreciate your response.. Let me know is you find anyone with experience getting both A& V to PAR since I'm hoping to dump them to video simultaneously. Thanks. Barry