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#Sony MDP-1100 LD Player!

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#12226From: John PendergrassOct 10, 1991 8:42 PM
[ continuation ] Laser Barcode interface: Front panel connector, Infrared with optional RMD-1100 (which is a seperate acc you can purchase) Size: 17" x 4 3/8" x 15 3/4" — Weight 16lbs 12oz. –jp–seattle–
#12245From: G. KlughOct 11, 1991 10:23 AM
John, Thanks for the post…… I have been looking to buy a Laser Disk player…. and this looks like the model for me!! To bad more people don't know more about LDs, because the picture and sound just can't be beat! Keep me up to date on the price. Same time same place……… Greg
#12253From: John PendergrassOct 11, 1991 8:02 PM
Well then, you're gonna LOVE this…. The price of that LD Player (MDP-1100) will list for $795.!! Should be able to find it even cheaper than that. Local dealer called me today, and told me he would sell me one for $725; it would take about three weeks to get. I am glad I waited 🙂 –jp–seattle–
#12283From: John GagerOct 12, 1991 8:55 PM
Not to get of the subject, but I saw one of those Progressive Peripherals 040 boards in action the other day, plugged into a 2000. Made me VERY jealous and sick compared to my 3000. He rendered a 24bit Vista Pro picture in less than 9 minutes. Then he ran Aibb-3 and it showed speeds on all tests about 3-4 times faster than a 3000, with a stock 2000 barely showing a ripple on the speed chart. Could have killed him 8^) John – K7KB (via Whap!)
#12303From: John PendergrassOct 13, 1991 11:26 AM
John, did you mistype the 'he rendered a 24bit VistaPro picture in less than 9 minutes."?? I just rendered one in 4'40", on my GVP 28mhz 030 equipped A2000. Had all the slow-down-the-rendering goodies turned on, too. And it had to do the pre-calcs too. Maybe by '*less* than 9 minutes' you meant 30 seconds? It would be true, you know 🙂 –jp–seattle–
#12343From: Karl SparklinOct 14, 1991 8:48 PM
John, Thanks for the info on the MDP-1100! The only thing it doesn't have that I'd want is digital-store for CLV effects, but the computer control makes up for it. I picked up a Pioneer LD-V2200 from an Amiga dealer a few months ago, though; it doesn't play CD's, but it's a blast digitizing CAV video and modifying CBM's point-of-sale demo! Karl – via Whap!
#12353From: John PendergrassOct 15, 1991 12:18 AM
Yeah, it would be real nice if the MDP-1100 had a few other effects…. in addition to the digital freeze, I'd particularly like the ability to automatically play BOTH sides of CAV/CLV discs. Many CAV discs are two-sided, and in developing a MM app I'd surely like to be able to access both sides, rather than telling the user, 'Now turn the disc to side TWO". 🙂 Oh well, maybe in another year or two? For now, the MDP-1100 seems about as flexible/affordable as one can get. –jp–seattle–
#12382From: Karl SparklinOct 15, 1991 8:50 PM
John, I wonder how quickly we'll see a driver for AmigaVision for it. Or will a current one work? Did you say you were ordering one? What will you be doing with it? Karl – via Whap!
#12407From: John PendergrassOct 16, 1991 7:38 PM
Not ordering one yet 🙂 Am strongly considering it though. Part of what holds me back is the cost of the genlock I'd need to make it really useful (in a computer environment). Shoot, that's more than the LD player! Re drivers, there are a ton of ld drivers on the AV disc, and the flyer for the new MDP-1100 says that it is compatible with the sony LDP series, so I'd think it would work fine (under AV, of course). I'd have to write my own controller for CanDo, etc, but I don't think that would be a problem. ahh… hope not 🙂 The MDP-1100 also plays audio CD's, and offers computer control over accessing them. Since you can access audio CD's to the second, I'd think that some good music educational programs could come out of that? (ala the Voyager discs for the Mac). Anyway, stay tuned. Maybe RSN. 🙂 –jp–seattle–
#12409From: Jim OgilvieOct 16, 1991 8:06 PM
John.. re: cost of a genlock. Actually, one of the BEST genlock solutions for using a LD player is the CBM 2300. It keeps your Amiga graphics in RGB, and codes your NTSC signal to RGB as well. This doesn't actually 'improve' the quality of your NTSC signal, but it *doesn't* degrade the quality of your Amiga generated graphics by stepping them down to NTSC. As a result, you get a beautiful display. AND the card is very very cheap. I've used many genlocks over the years, and the 2300 just makes the best sense for any multimedia application I've done (touchscreen included). Jim
#12451From: John PendergrassOct 17, 1991 8:11 PM
Jim, does the A2300 go in the Video slot, or is it external? I've a FlickerFixer in the video slot, and wouldn't want to give that up. But your argument makes sense. For MM stuff it certainly would be nice to still have the RGB video. (BTW, is that why folks are asking about the A2320 in reference to the IV24 board, cause the IV24 requires RGB video, and that's what the A2320 puts out?) You can use as a normal genlock, no? Last question, will the A2320 be able to use the HAM-E or FireCracker24 output on top of the video??? Questions…. questions…. thanks. –jp–seattle–
#12452From: Jim OgilvieOct 17, 1991 8:43 PM
Well, lets see here.. First, the 2300 requires the video slot. So you cannot have both the flicker fixer and 2300 co-existing in the same machine (unless the DEB board would work, but as far as I know that's designed for the Microway flicker fixer card). The 2320 puts out two kinds of RGB video. 15 and 31 Khz. I don t't know what kind of video the IV24 wants, I really don't know anything about it. When you're talking about dealing with laserdisc applications, you really need to forget about flicker fixers and the like. Even if it means taking your 2320 out temporarily so you can develop your application. Screen positioning with the 2300 (with video being fed into it) get's messed up a bit, so for that reason alone you would want to develop your application *through* the 2300, just to make sure your screen positioning is correct. I don't see any way to use the 2320 output with Firecracker or Ham-E, cuz those devices require 15Khz video, although you could rig up something to get it to *work* with these devices, but you'd have to have the card in 'disable' mode to get 15Khz video out of it…so why bother. Unless you worded your message wrong and meant to ask if you can use the '2300' to overlay Ham-E type stuff and Firecracker stuff, that makes more sense to me. (your original message asked if you can use the 2320 and Ham-e or FF together). I haven't tried it, but I'd venture to say that, yes, why not? After all, the Ham-E and FF are fairly transparent in the way they deal with Amiga signals (or so it would seem). Ben might want to comment further. Jim
#12419From: Donovan WattsOct 17, 1991 12:00 AM
Remember John, I am selling a perfect condition SuperGen 2000s and a Pioneer LD-V4200 laserdisc player. >>DonovaN
#12494From: Karl SparklinOct 19, 1991 3:19 PM
John, Yeah, I just got my requested flyer from Voyager and was pining for those neat audio applications. Neat stuff. I thought those guys were the ones that had the Voyager spacecraft image disks as well, but I must have gotten confused on the names. Time to go search my saved Whap message files. I think I'd have fun creating a Voayger AmigaVision application. Great fun.
#12574From: G. KlughOct 23, 1991 10:40 PM
John, $725…. Sounds good to me. Good luck. I was wondering though…. Does this thing have any 'digital features?' or stuff like playing both sides of the disk?? Same time same place……… Greg
#12619From: John PendergrassOct 25, 1991 7:01 PM
No 'digital' features, nor the ability to play both sides of a disc. I'd rate the ability to play both sides of a two-sided disc the most important feature that missing. There are a lot of CAV discs that it would be nice to have your program automatically play the right side, rather than requesting the user to manually flip the disc 🙁 Oh well, maybe later. The fact that it offers multi-format play is a major stride in the right direction. –jp–seattle–
#12257From: John PendergrassOct 11, 1991 8:02 PM
Price on SONY MDP-1100: $795. list. –jp–seattle–
#12246From: Eric RobbinsOct 11, 1991 1:34 PM
What is the price? ERIC – via Whap!
#12254From: John PendergrassOct 11, 1991 8:02 PM
Hot from the phone call: $795 list! Great price! –jp–seattle–
#12256From: John PendergrassOct 11, 1991 8:02 PM
OK all, I've got the price on the Sony MDP-1100 multi-disc format LD player (w/ computer control): $795. list. The dealer I talked with quoted me $725, and three weeks delivery. Sounds pretty good to me! –jp–seattle–
#12313From: Martin WarnettOct 13, 1991 8:54 PM
The Voyager Company, (they produce the excellent Criterion Collection laser discs), are advertising the MDP 1100 for $695. They also produce a lot of software for use with videodiscs, Mac only so far. The Voyager Company. (213) 451 1383 1-800-446-2001 (Orders only). -=Martin=- – via Whap!
#12316From: John PendergrassOct 13, 1991 10:45 PM
Thanks, but I have a local dealer who will do it for less than $695, so I think I'll go there 🙂 Voyager stuff is pretty good, at least what I've seen. Some real nice music stuff (didn't they do Mozart's annotated 'Flute'?) videodisk/software? –jp–seattle–
#12575From: G. KlughOct 23, 1991 10:40 PM
John, What price is your local dealer selling it for? Cause $695 sounded better then your $725 quote from before…… Same time same place……… Greg
#12620From: John PendergrassOct 25, 1991 7:01 PM
Did I say $695? If so, sorry. My dealer quoted $725. (list $795) One would need to spring for the LDM-1100 interface manual too, I'd think. In order to really use the computer interface. –jp–seattle–
#12752From: G. KlughOct 30, 1991 12:50 AM
John, Yeah you said $695……Thats what threw me. 725 still sounds good. Thanks for all of the info. Same time same place……… Greg