CIS/Unysis GIF scam
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John,
We (Black Belt Systems) have already taken the first steps in
contacting CIS over this. The contact given was Larry Wood, who says
he is the "Point Sysop" on this matter.
I emailed him, and received a reply suggesting I call, "due to the
overwhelming amount of email on this matter". I can well imagine. So
I called him, and we talked. I have a reasonably good grasp on what
is happening at the moment, and it _appears_ that things are still in
flux. If this turns out to be as nonsensical as the Compton's tiff
over "multimedia" was, as I suspect it will, then probably nothing
will happen in the long run. However, at the moment, there is a
potential financial liability building for every copy that sells
which supports GIF. As a result, the smart thing to do is simply drop
support for GIF – period. And that's what we currently plan to do.
There are myriad _available_ file formats that provide the "benefits"
that GIF does, IFF being an excellent example… in fact, IFF is a
much better format.
My take on this is that if they DO attempt to do enforce this issue,
the first thing that will happen is GIF will go out of use. The
second thing that will happen is a huge backlash against CIS and to
some extent, Unisys. Of those two, CIS is far more vulnerable. Such a
backlash would be entirely justified in my view. The problem here is
that GIF was made available, at no charge, without the requirement of
signing ANY license agreement, in many venues, BY CIS. This makes it
very hard to charge people back-royalties, perhaps impossible…
certainly seems like it OUGHT to be impossible.
I've already issues instructions to the technical people to remove GIF
from Imagemaster R/t and WinImages products.
Ben Williams President Black Belt Systems
–Ben
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Thanks for the info!
And as a happy Imagemaster owner, I wholeheartedly support your decision to
remove GIF support.
Warp 3 — Engage!
Bob Comer Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
I'm just pulling all the .gifs off our web pages…
Ben: It might be better to just sit back and wait to see what happens
before you pull GIF support from ImageMaster and other products. I think
it will end up like the Compton multimedia fiasco as you mentioned. And
even if they did decide to take someone to court, they probably have
little or no chance in winning.
I do agree that GIF is not a very good format anymore. The only advantage
it held was that in the time it was introduced, most everyone was using
286's with EGA or VGA cards so it offered relatively fast decompression
with small file sizes, which was a necessity considering the horsepower of
the PC's in those days. Now most PC owners are getting 486's or Pentiums
that can decompress a JPEG image in a matter of seconds and displaying
them on 24-bit cards. Amiga owners have always been lucky to have the IFF
format that has many advantages over GIF. So if GIF dies, it really won't
hurt my feelings either.
// John (Warp 4040 & Emplant Quadra 840)
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John,
GIF can always be put back. However, the responsible thing is to pull the
support because we now _know_ that we are using someone elses intellectual
property to which they currently have a legal claim and to which they are
currently legally restricting access… or else to purchase the license from
either CIS or Unisys – and that's not a good business decision for us, so we
won't do it… they want far too much of the price considering what GIF
provides (which isn't a heck of a lot, frankly).
If Unisys changes their position, we'll just whip that stuff right back in
there. If not, well, there you go. GIF, in fact any 8-bit limited format, is
pretty obsolete at this point.
–Ben
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I just find out that in version 6.0 of TIFF there is an LZW compression option
and it too has to be license through UNISYS. Does ImageMaster support that
aspect of TIFF compression?
I don't know, Edourd. I'll have to look into it.
–Ben
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Much of the problem in going to court is win or lose, it costs time and money.
That alone can kill a company even if it wins. Harry M. Hi Ben:) \exit