#TERM Help Needed
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I need some help setting up TERM (v3.4) to work correctly. I ahve
never used TERM previously, but have heard it is an excellent
program. However, I cannot seem to get to work correctly. One of
the problems is that when it first logs on the text from the Host
appears to be in a foreign language. Also, in the DOCs there is a
mention that you can send some commands, specifically '/p' for the
password, but I cannot determine the context which you can use these
commands. I need TERM for the Kermit protocol on InterNet. By the
Way, whatever happened to JR Radigan & JR-COMM. I like JR-COMM, but
no Kermit protocol and no ability to edit translation tables. Thanks
for any info. -Rob-
Rob,
Having just completed a quick sesson with Term 3.1 with the settings below
I know they work with that version and I would think they work with 3.4 as
well. Anyway give a go.
Serial preferences were as recommended by CompuServe ie 9600 baud,
"7-1-E".
Within Term use the "Settings" menu and "Serial" option, it should be near
the top.
Baud Rate : 9600 Strip bit 8: (tick)
Bits/char : eight High Speed mode: (tick) note I think this is
the actual trick
Parity : none check carrier: (cross)
Stop bits : one shared access: (cross)
Handshaking: RTS/CTS(DSR) xON/xOFF: (cross)
Duplex : full
I hope that they work for you. Good luck
Adrian
thanks, But what does tick and cross mean? I will play around with these
settings and see what happens. -Rob-
A tick means to select the item, a cross means not to select it. Sorry I
didn't make myself clearer.
Adrian
Thanks, I kind of figured it that was it , but wanted to be sure. Also,
another tip from a user here on CIS led me to try using 8-N-1 and to select (er
tick) the 'strip last bit' and that also worked. I am also looking forward to
checking out Terminus since I have used JR-COMM for awhile. Maybe some day I
will even get around to checking out AutoPilot. Thanks for all the info, -Rob-
I would try AutoPilot, I did and registered it almost straight away. I
stii\ll log on manually once and a while, but most of my work on
CompuServe is "done on AutoPilot".
Adrian
Adrian, I notice a lot of people use it, and swear by it. Guess I am
getting set in my ways. -Rob-
If you are still reading and writing replies in the forums on-line in
real time, you will kick yourself for months once you try Autopilot.
It's not just the savings- although they are large- it's the
tremendous increase in convenience. History for any message is only
a button click away- did you ever wonder what a reply replied to? The
complete catalogs for all the files in a forum are right there-
browse and select the files you want off line, and they get
automatically downloaded when you next go on-line. And best of all,
you get to compose your messages off line in a decent editor, split
screen with the message to which you are responding. And the demo
version of Autopilot is free for the downloading.
I have to admit, I have many times wondered what a reply, replied to.
BUT, what about documentation? The major problem with most
shareware/PD is lack of comprehensive documentation. That is the
problem with TERM. JR-COMM, er Terminus, on the other hand has a
200+ manual. How extensive is AP's documentation, and can you just
order the non-demo version without first downloading the demo version
to get the registration info? -Rob-
The docs are pretty good, although they are a couple of revisions
behind. But the changes doc does a good job of covering the new
features, and Autopilot has its own section in AmigaVendor for
support. Ap doesn't NEED the kind of docs that Terminus does, since
it is meant for use only on CIS and thus doesn't need as much
flexibility. Its major limitation is that it is limited to reading
forum messages and downloading files (it can display online GIFs like
the weather maps too) so if you are doing a lot of other things on
CIS it may not be much help. It does have a "hands on" mode for
manual use, so it is perfectly usable for those other things, it just
isn't an improvement.
The demo is the easiest and best way to get AP- First, you determine if
AP is what you want, Second you get it set up properly, and when it is
working, you register it here online (and get charged for the program).
The authors send you a magic email which automatically enables all
features of the program. You do need 1) a hard disk with no less than 5
megs free – the history files and catalogs are BIG, 2) 2.04 or better, 3)
one Meg of chip Ram or better and at least 2 Megs total, and 4) a
deinterlacer of some sort is strongly recommended. Note that the docs are
in a separate file. The files you need, all in library 9 (Autopilot) of
Amigavendor, are: Ap.lha, apdocs.lha, and change.lha. Updates, at least
so far, have been free.
//
-Karl \X/ Amiga and Autopilot: The *only* way to fly!
thanks, I am going to give ap a try. -Rob-
There's nothing wrong in continuing to use something that is
familiar. I do like AutoPilot as I think it saves me a small fortune
:-), however there are times that AutoPilot is just not man enough
for the job. Then I log in manually. You could argue that by always
logging manually you are more familiar with the CompuServe
enviroment.
As you can tell by my ID#, I have been around CIS for awhile. I may
give AP a try. I don't mind change, it is just that a lot of
shareware has poor documentation, and it is really frustrating to
figure out how to use a poorly documented program. Although I will
say, I cannot recall any program with such excellent testamonials. I
will give it a try and see how I like it. -Rob-
Adrian, Changing to 7-E-1 works! Thanks.
Rob,
Changing to 7-E-1 works to get rid of the logon garbage text but I don't
think your gonna succeed with downloads. It requires 8-N-1 and you can't
switch settings in mid-session.
Christopher
Thanks, I also 'checked' the 'strip last bit' and it also worked as far as
getting rid of the garbage. If I use this setting, I should be able to
download OK? -Rob-
protocol on InterNet. By the Way, whatever happened to JR Radigan &
JR-COMM. I like JR-COMM, but no Kermit protocol and no ability to edit
translation tables. Thanks for any info. -Rob-
Boy are you out of date ! :^)
JR-COMM has been totally re written by Jack, and is now called Terminus,
latest version is 2.0C, and I think it's available in the file area…
Check it out.
Tim
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
Thanks for the info. I can't beleive I missed that. I am a registered user of
JR-COMM and would have thought I would have been notified. Has he opened up
his BBS again as well? -Rob-
As far as I know yes his BBS is still going…. I have seen it mentioned
several times on the Amiga International Echo.
Tim
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
Rob,
The BBS was never closed, just relocated. I've always been available
here, on GEnie, BIX and via USENET/INTERNET as well.
As for notification. I've thought about doing a mailing, but with all
the different comm programs available today and the low upgrade cost from
JR-Comm to Terminus, I'm not sure that it would be cost effective.
-jack-
Hi Jack, Long time no "see". I thought sure you closed your BBS except to beta
testers. Well anyway, my upgrade request was mailed yesterday to Ocean City,
NJ with a note. Two things, OK 3 things, 1. What is the new BBS # 2. Is the
name database the same or do I need to register as new 3. I spent a half-hour
downloading terminus from compuserve (someday I will upgrade from a 2400 bd –
maybe) and it would not start. I kept getting a system error "unable open
library". Could not figure out what was going wrong. Might want to make sure
that even people like me can get Terminus up and running. _Rob- P.S. Delighted
to find out you are still enhancing your telecommuniications program.
Rob,
The BBS # is 609-398-7453. If you had an account on there it should
still be there, I rarely delete accounts.
The library message is probably related to the file requester library.
It needs version 38 (AmigaDOS 2.1) of asl.library or reqtools.library.
Otherwise, it needs req.library for AmigaDOS 1.3.
-jack-
I am using 2.0. Doses this mean I am an "OS orphan", and if so, what do I do
about it (without upgrading to 2.1 of course)? -Rob- P.S. And I understand that
there is now an OS 3.1 for all computers
What's this about 3.1 being out for all computers?
Rob,
Set 8-N-1 and strip bit 8.
In term select Settings Menu | Serial and checkmark select [Strip bit 8].
Use the settings 8-N-1 for CIS.
You need to download at 8-N-1 and can't switch back and forth between it
and 7-E-1 during a session.
You can also ignore the garbage and continue the login sequence to get to
the password, from then on the text will be clear.
Christopher
Thanks, I will give it a try. -Rob-
Hy Rob,
you can use of '\p' (for password) and '\u' (for username) in so called
command sequences, you can define one function key to send \u\r\p\r
(username and password, separated by CRs) to answer the CompuServe login
sequence. To do this, you must define a phone-book entry for CompuServe,
and set username and password there. Even better would be an ARexx script
to log into CompuServe (I use one). Look at the supplied demo
AutoLogin.term (in the Term:ARexx/ directory), even if you can't program
ARexx (like me <g>), the script is easy to understand and to modify. Look
into the termRexx documentation for the syntax of the commands.
Markus
Thanks, I am not sure that I have the Autolog demo but I am trying to figure
out how to use the Macro (AREXX) to auto login. -Rob-