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#Imagine GigaMem

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#43466From: Vance SchowalterSep 15, 1994 1:11 AM
Hi, Margeret! I was told you might be using GigaMem successfully with Imagine. Can you tell me what you did to get it to work? I have Imagine 3.0 . Thanks! If you can't help, thanks anyhow. Onto others reading this message: Please! Anyone who is successfully using GigaMem to add more memory to Imagine, please tell me the settings required. I use GigaMem mainly for Imagemaster R/t, but I'd like to be able to use it with Imagine 3.0 . Thanks for any help! -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
#43469From: Michael McCormickSep 15, 1994 1:21 PM
Vance, I'm using Gigamem. At first it would not run and I could not figure out why. Well after a hour of fooling around I noticed that the default name for imagine in the gigamem program database was wrong. Check the name in your database and make sure its the same as imagines on your system. After that it works as advertised. (for the most part). I have run into a memory limitation when trying to load all my objects into the stage editor. I have too many and it uses all the memory in my system. Apparently gigamem does not intercept the memory calls for loading objects into the stage editor. It will use virtual memory to do the actual rendering.
#43471From: Vance SchowalterSep 15, 1994 8:19 PM
Thanks for the tips! *8^) -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
#43476From: Margaret CopelandSep 16, 1994 8:41 AM
I have a very old version of Gigamem (2.1) and I don't think I've tested it on Imagine 3.0. It did work with 2.9. Here is what I have in the Gigamem prefs: menu, I have an entire partition set up as 'SWAP' ( I think I have 40 megs there) on my Quantum drive, I have 1 for Buf mem, 300 for Cache mem, and only Virtual memory. I could never get Imagine to work with regular memory first. Let me explain that my 500 has 7 megs of Ram but it is all over the place. It works but I think it is kind of painfull to use with Imagine. I'd only use it if I was just short of the amount of memory you really needed.
#43478From: Vance SchowalterSep 16, 1994 12:12 PM
Thanks for thehelp, Margaret! I hope it'll work for me. -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
#43479From: Margaret CopelandSep 16, 1994 2:43 PM
Keep trying different things, you'll get it.
#43484From: Vance SchowalterSep 16, 1994 10:50 PM
Still no luck. It lets me use about 5 or so megs and then starts sucking up all of the real memory. Did you tinker with the advanced options at all? If so, what were they set to? I called tech support and they said they couldn't help me. So, I'm reliant on any help from here. -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
#43490From: Margaret CopelandSep 17, 1994 9:41 AM
Are you using a partition or a swap file ? I never could get the swap file to do anything. Are you saying the computer dies because you have no memory at all left and you get hung or what ?
#43491From: Vance SchowalterSep 17, 1994 10:06 AM
I've used both a partition and a swap file and both worked with equal results. The computer doesn't die, the real ram starts being used after 5 or so mb of virtual ram is used. Then when the memory runs out, I'magine brings up the requester that there isn't any memory left. -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
#43497From: Margaret CopelandSep 17, 1994 7:32 PM
Hmm…, what does the Amiga Workbench report before you start any rendering – amount of Chip and Fast Ram. This is just a guess but it is acting like it isn't recognizing your entire swap file as the virtual Ram. How large is your partition ? Do you delete what is in the partition if Imagine dies on you ? When I don't use my Gigamem, I reinit the partition and use it to store other stuff. When I use Gigamem, I clean it out and only use it for that. Are you putting other files in the partition – Gigamem wants it all for itself. Since I only use a partition and I ask it to use Virtual Memory first, it never takes my memory to start Imagine or keep other programs going. Does Imagine let you exit the program gracefully when it reports it has no memory left? I've never had it give me that requester – generally it just hangs. I had Imagine do that after 4 days of running my computer night and day. It didn't do it during the object load – just crapped out during a raytrace. I wasn't running Gigamem when it did that.
#43531From: Vance SchowalterSep 18, 1994 9:45 PM
Right now I'm using a swap file instead of the entire partition. It may be slower but it's quicker to make room for other things. I have the swap file set at 35mb… it goes down to about 28, then my real memory starts getting pumped out instead. Could you send a reply which includes your "GigaMem.pref" and "GigaMem.Prefs" files? Here are my current settings. "GigaMem.pref" ————– LANGUAGE locale VIRTUALSIZE 0x1B00000 BUFFERSIZE 0x280000 CACHESIZE 0x78000 SWAPPARTITION "QWH0" NICEDEVICE "ALFstreams.device" NICEDEVICE "dnet.device" NICEDEVICE "dummy.device" NICEDEVICE "messydisk.device" NICEDEVICE "mfm.device" NICEDEVICE "parnet.device" NICEDEVICE "ramdisk.device" NICEDEVICE "ramdrive.device" NICEDEVICE "scsi.device" NICEDEVICE "serial.device" NICEDEVICE "trackdisk.device" THRESHOLD 10000 MEMMASK 1 MEMATTR 0 MEMPRI 1 COMMENT "" "clariSSA" THRESHOLD 100 MEMMASK 4 MEMATTR 4 MEMPRI 2 COMMENT "Only Animations" "DPaint" THRESHOLD 45000 MEMMASK 0 MEMATTR 0 MEMPRI 1 COMMENT "" "Imagine" THRESHOLD 45000 MEMMASK 0 MEMATTR 0 MEMPRI 1 COMMENT "ImageMaster Turbo" "imf" THRESHOLD 10000 MEMMASK 1 MEMATTR 0 MEMPRI 1 COMMENT "" "PPaint" THRESHOLD 1000 MEMMASK 1 MEMATTR 0 MEMPRI 1 COMMENT "" "RAM" THRESHOLD 10000 MEMMASK 1 MEMATTR 0 MEMPRI 1 COMMENT "" "TAS" THRESHOLD 10000 MEMMASK 1 MEMATTR 0 MEMPRI 1 COMMENT "" "-l" "GigaMem.Prefs" ————— LANGUAGE english VIRTUALSIZE 0x2300000 BUFFERSIZE 0x100000 CACHESIZE 0x4B000 SWAPFILE "Work3:SWAP" NICEDEVICE "ALFstreams.device" NICEDEVICE "dnet.device" NICEDEVICE "dummy.device" NICEDEVICE "messydisk.device" NICEDEVICE "mfm.device" NICEDEVICE "parnet.device" NICEDEVICE "ramdisk.device" NICEDEVICE "ramdrive.device" NICEDEVICE "scsi.device" NICEDEVICE "serial.device" NICEDEVICE "trackdisk.device" The only other thing I can think of that is different, is that I have mixed Page and Static RAM. Funny thing is, DPaint, PPaint, Imagemaster R/t and more, seem to run on GigaMem without trouble. And when I hear that you have it working with Imagine, it becomes more frustrating for me, because I can really use it now. -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
#43540From: Margaret CopelandSep 19, 1994 8:31 AM
This was a long time ago but I called the company that supports Gigamem in this country to ask about problems I was having with the product. (wish I could think of the company name – Innovatronics ?? ). Anyway, Imagemaster and DPaint ask for and use additional memory in a different manner than Imagine. However Imagine does it is similar to AdPro. The * only * solution for me was to run those programs with a portion of your drive as a Partition not a Swap file. I could never get Imagine to run without setting it to 'Virtual Memory Only'. I gather you'd prefer not to have to mess with your drive and set up a partition but that is all I can suggest that you do at this point. If you have any other programs – even ones not on the 'Gigamem' list – try those too. I got Vertex to work which is a model-generating program. I was able to create some very big hoggy models that way. Of course, even with Gigamem running, I couldn't stand waiting for them to render <g>.
#43547From: Vance SchowalterSep 19, 1994 3:39 PM
I started using GigaMem with a full partition after installing GM. The results are the same either way. Thanks for trying, anyhow. *8^) -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!