#miroVideo and Premiere
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I have today been on a demostration of the miroVIDEO DC1 tv and Adobe Premiere
V1.1. When I went to the demo I were prepared to have a card with me back but I
left the company without any card. The demo were not what I expect of a demo,
their knowledge of video editing and Adobe Premiere were very limited. I wanted
to check for me 2 important things.
1. Picture quality.
What I was shown were low quality VHS but they had used a rental video as
input and they usually are in a very bad quality from the beginning, they
couldn't show me anything where they had used an input from a camara in any
quality. I hoped they could show be something from Hi-8 or S-VHS. But I think
this is what you can get for that price. I think this quality is a good start
for learning the technic.
2. Sound editing and mixing.
They could only show Premiere V1.1. They didn't know anything about V4 (not
V1.1 either… my opinion). I want to work with several audio tracks with for
example, atmosphere, speaker, music, sound effects etc. These needs then to be
mixed together were I can set volume, fading and also equlization per track.
These need to be changable and set in exact the right frame of video. According
to the demostrator can I NOT do this with Adobe Premiere V1.1. Of this reason I
didn't buy anything today.
I have a couple of questions:
1. This Audio editing limitation is this also true in Adobe Premiere V4? In
Adobe datasheet for Premiere V4 the say "Add up to 99 tracks each of video and
CD-quality audio for complex compositing and sound mixing". What is this? Is
this what I want? Is there any other possibility to take care of this?
2. They told me that MAKE VIDEO could take several hours depending of the
editing. I wonder if I could MAKE VIDEO on a part of my film for preview but
they said this is NOT possible. Again is this possible in Adobe Premiere V4?
3. Is there anybody who know when miro will bundle Premiere V4 together with
miroVIDEO DC1 tv?
4. Is there any more detail information about Adobe Premiere V4 that goes
deeper than the datasheet?
Thanks in advance
Roger Bille
Roger,
I've been wondering about the miroVIDEO DC1 myself. Does anyone have more
information on this card?
I can tell you that according to Adobe, if you purchase Premiere V1.1 after
September 1994, you are supposed to beable to upgrade for free to version 4.0.
Also, version 4.0 is supposed to support SMPTE time code, which then seems to
me that you should be able to sync any video and audio tracks with frame
resolution. This information is from the Adobe forum.
If you find out anything else about the DC1, please let me know. The salesman
that I spoke with on the telephone was vague about how DC1 video and audio
synchronization would occur.
John
I just recieved the latest version (4.0) of premier today. It does a lot more
than the 1.1 version, but one the same note has most of the same limitations.
For example, no improved audio editing.
I would suggest you look into MediaStudio. The Video Capture of MediaStudio is
actually included with the Miro DC1. Why I suggest MediaStudio is because it
is more of a complete solution, audio editing, image editing, even morphing.
Theres alot more, but you'll have to talk to Ulead to find out what.
Dave Coy
Hi, Dave.
Glad to have you around.
–Vincent Chen
Vincent,
I would like to have some more information about MediaStudio. In particular
audio editing/mixing. Price and if you have a knowledgable distributor in
Sweden.
Thanks in Advance
Roger
Dave,
I would be interested in any information that you have on the MediaStudio:
phone number for Ulead, cost ($), how vidio and audio synchronization occurs,
etc.
Also, what does Adobe 4.0 do with its SMPTE time code? I wonder if you could
sync it to an external audio recording deck?
Thanks for any information.
John
John:
>>Also, what does Adobe 4.0 do with its SMPTE time code? I wonder if you could
sync it to an external audio recording deck?<<
Do you mean at playback or capture time? Premiere can capture video and audio
using timecode, so you could capture video from a source deck with timecode and
later capture timecoded audio and sync it all together easily. Is this what
you're trying to do?
Nick
Roger:
>> 1. Picture quality.
What I was shown were low quality VHS but they had used a rental video as
input and they usually are in a very bad quality from the beginning, they
couldn't show me anything where they had used an input from a camara in any
quality. I hoped they could show be something from Hi-8 or S-VHS. But I think
this is what you can get for that price. I think this quality is a good start
for learning the technic.<<
The Miro DC1 captures at 'about' second-generation VHS quality; it captures at
320×240 in NTSC, which is half the resolution vertically and horizontally of
the source material and then doubles the captured video when playing back. The
resulting video quality is fairly high for this type of card, especially if you
use high quality source (_not_ VHS rental tapes <g>), and keep the compression
fairly low to avoid artifacts.
>>I want to work with several audio tracks with for example, atmosphere,
speaker, music, sound effects etc. These needs then to be mixed together were I
can set volume, fading and also equlization per track.<<
Premiere 1.1 and 4.0 can do mixes and fades of 3 or 99 (4.0) audio tracks; you
can set the level of each channel/track down to a frame by frame level.
Premiere currently doesn't do any EQ or more than minor effects on audio, and
you'll probably want to pre-sweeten or post the audio for a complex project.
>>2. They told me that MAKE VIDEO could take several hours depending of the
editing. I wonder if I could MAKE VIDEO on a part of my film for preview but
they said this is NOT possible. Again is this possible in Adobe Premiere V4?<<
Premiere's Make Movie, when used with cuts-only material, is very fast and
takes just minutes. If you layer many complex effects on your video, it can
take longer, sometimes much longer; it depends on how you work and what your
needs are. If you do serious editing with some dissolves and wipes and a few
titles, the rendering process is quite tolerable. If you are doing an MTV-style
video with thousands of flying clips and titles and psychedelic effects, it can
take a long time to render.
>>4. Is there any more detail information about Adobe Premiere V4 that goes
deeper than the datasheet?<<
Sure: what do you want to know?