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#WB2.0

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#3164From: Mark D. ManesNov 5, 1990 11:15 PM
Ben, I wonder.. would you appreciate the harrasment if say your work was the target of criticism like your own? Perhaps if users were to rake you over the coals for bugs in the paint system for HAM-E, and perhaps the AVT software? Have you risen so high that you write bugfree code? The way your message reads, though you may not intend it, is that Commodore is not only not doing anything about these problems, but further doesn't care. I dare say I doubt that either is the case. Are these bugs alive and well in AmigaDOS 2.0? If so, have you submitted a bug report describing these conditions? There is no such thing as a bug free program, or for that matter a bug free operating system. Yes, the Amiga does crash but so does every computer that I have ever seen. Care to mention one that doesn't? Perhaps I need to invite you out for a VAX crash.. they can be rather impressive, and caused by the simpliest of things, like running out of headers on a hard disk will generate a file system bugcheck in VMS 5.2. My point, never throw stones in a glass house. -mark=
#3184From: Black Belt SystemsNov 6, 1990 1:41 AM
Mark, I don't live in a glass house, and I'm good at catching stones, from which follows I don't mind of you (or anyone else) throws them. I don't write bugfree code, nor do I profess to. Nor is it relevant. And Mark, as the primary designer of most of our products (not all) I take a lot of heat from time to time. It's part of being a "public figure". In my time, I've taken heat as an instructor of a couple of radically different things, as a programmer, as an engineer, as a writer, and as an opinionated person. I don't mind. Most of it has helped me, the rest doesn't bother me unless (a) I percieve it as true AND (b) I'm not in a position to do anything about it. I think, personally, that CBM should have fixed some of the crashing bugs long ago. THe fact that they did not, and PD hackers DID, should be a matter of some shame to them, IMHO. I recognize that they are working on 2.0; great. My concern, which I feel is a valid one, is that it's going to be a while before it's a "real" OS that all of us can run. Between the bugs and the artificially imposed segragation, 2.0 isn't looking like much of an OS solution. Not to me, anyway. BBS->Williams.Ben[AA7AS]