#Amiga Assemblers
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I would like to try and do some assembly programming on my Ami, so I'm
looking for some suggestions as to which assembler to buy, and which Amiga
Assembler book is the best (I already have a 680×0 programming book and the
Manx assembler). Thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions.
Sylvain, Portage, Manitoba
Sylvain,
Why not use Charlie Gibbs' excellent assembler from our libraries? It is
really very good. You would need the includes from the Native Developers'
Kit from Commodore, but that is only $20. There is also a good debugger
over in Library 6, as well.
As for books, I think the one from Compute, written by Dan Wolfe, is
probably as good as you will find. Abacus has one or two, and there is the
Commander book from TAB – but that one is mostly about the 68000, and only
gets to a little assembler programming way at the back! The Compute book
is called COMPUTE'S MACHINE LANGUAGE PROGRAMMING GUIDE, and I certainly
found it to be better than the others for my efforts.
Betty
Thanks for the reply Betty. Are you talking about ASM68K ? I think I might
have it somewhere in one of those miilion floppies. What's the name of the
debugger? I will order the Compute! book right, I figured it was probably
the best one, as usual.
Sylvain, Portage, Manitoba
sylvain, let me know if I can help with questions you may have about the
Compute! book. Also Compute offers a disk with a quite decent assembler to
go along with the book. Look near the end of the book for the 800 number,
but it may have changed as Chilton no longer owns Compute! books. I'll try
to help if I can. Also, following on the same style of programming as in
the book is a series of asm prog. articles in the first 8 issues of Amiga+
Magazine.
Thanks a lot for the help Dan! I just added your name to my Whap! phone
book. I've ordered the Compute! book today. Is the Aztec assembler a good
one to use as a stand-alone asm?
Sylvain, Portage, Manitoba
If you order Dan's book, get the disk too, it has a very nice assembler,
with an intuitionized front end as an example prog. that assembler is
asm68010 or soimething. The manx assembler is at least as good than either
68k or asm68010, if you already own it, use it for a while..
arnie, you're too kind. I had even forgotten about the little
intuition-based assembler-launcher system for asm68010 by Doug Leavitt. I
do it all from scripts now. By the way, did you receive the new NeuroPro
and BarPro/A I sent you? Hope you enjoy playing with neural network AI and
something meaty in the way of bar code stuff. get in touch when you can.
Haven't seen the new 'Pro's yet, but I will keep looking, if they're on the
way… The press releases have made their way into the new products part…
can I make an OCR engine with neural pro?? rephrase: could one make an OCR
engine? .. I think if you can do one with help from the blitter, you cna
sell quite a few.
arnie I sent you NeuroPro and BarPro/A last week by post. You should have
gotten them by now. There is a little OCR example on the NeuroPro disk
(uses 10 Topaz8 characters, has trained network on disk, and also has
'dirtied up' versions of same bit patterns showing network can recognize
deliberately noisy inputs). The OCR example is based on hand-feeding
NeuroPro the patterns on an 8×8 grid (NeuroPro can handle up to 64 neurons
on each of 3 layers with a total of up to 8192 connections). engine but I
haven't done it. Look to expand Ne neuropro could be integrated into some
larger OCR engine but I haven't done it. look to expand NPro up to 16×16
grid capability in the future. Current program quite interesting as you
can design your own training pairs and input data as simple ASCII HEX text
files of up to 4096 entries. Try it. Look forward to mention in Amiga+.
Nice seeing Nat at AmiExpo (MegageM had a booth for the first time!) and
sorry you couldn't be there to celebrate MegageM's first public appearance.
Nice booth, too. Showed CellPro, NeuroPro and BarPro (including hardware
and printing bar codes to attach to peoples' badges). BarProA on its way to
you can print and IFF-save 10 different types of bar codes. Now working
with data base programs to permit scanning hardware to interface with DB
prog and call up file records on screen for POS applications.
betty, you're too kind. Thanks, Dan
I heartily endorse Compute!s Amiga Machine Language Progamming Guide but
I'm prejudiced. Daniel Wolf