CompuServe Thread

<<If I boot up Win/NT 3.5, using it's dual boot feature, and chose to boot up as a DOS machine will 3DStudio launch and run like these other DOS programs are reportedly doing? >> Yes Jh

If you boot the machine and select DOS, that's exactly what you get. In fact, you won't even see the NT stuff as it lies on a separate hard disk partition (provided you installed it in its default configuration). No portion of NT is loaded and as far as you're concern, you don't even know you have NT until you boot and select NT. You basically have two totally different operating systems on your hard disk and the ability to select what you want to boot. Note that Win95.99987351 does not "emulate" dos. As of today (I don't know what they will do in the next 4 years 'till they ship the thing) Win95 is just a biffed-up version of Windows for Workgroups. It sits on top of DOS just like today's version. There are many differences but mostly cosmetics. When it comes to core system, it's basically the same. The "DOS" sitting down below (they are probably going to release it alone as DOS 7) has the same structure and same behaviors. In fact, you can still make up your own config.sys and autoexec.bat, load QEMM and do everything you do with 3.1. Again, this can all change as this is way too early in the game.

Hi Rod, << I'm hearing that Win/NT 3.5 has an excellent dual boot option that sets up a great DOS machine outside the NT environment on the same machine. >> FWIW. It doesn't set up a new DOS environment but it allows to boot from the DOS environment that was present when you installed NT. If during the installation of NT you do not have DOS installed(or it's corrupt/incomplete) then you will not get the option for a DOS boot. jonas[adesk]

I am using this setup now to test some new software, running NT with duel boot option to dos. 3DS runs fine, but 3DS will not work under a NT/DOS shell 🙁 Brandon

Rod, It looks like you got some answers, but since you addresed your questions to me, I will pitch in as well. <<Can we possibly get past this tired old mechanical "standard recorded answer" mode for a second. I've been using AutoCad for over nine years now, and I'm a veteran of the AutoCAd Forum, so I'm use to these types of answers from Adesk employees. >> This being the case, you should know the standard answer to this. Under no circumstances will I, any product support representative, or SYSOP/TM on the forum talk about unreleased products. We are just simply not allowed to. I'm sorry, but that is the way it is. There are, indeed, other departments that have a little more freedom in this matter, but we are not one of them. On to your questions,,, <<If I boot up Win/NT 3.5, using it's dual boot feature, and chose to boot up as a DOS machine will 3DStudio launch and run like these other DOS programs are reportedly doing? I'm NOT talking about runing inside NT, I'm talking about the separate DOS bootup option.>> In this scenario, you are using DOS. DOS works. You are not running under NT, so my response "3DS does not run under NT" does not apply. <<You and I both know Adesk has Beta releases of Win/95, so all I'm trying to find out is what has been observered so far. I've been talking to Win/95 Beta users and I'm hearing disturbing reports about it's ability to emulate DOS windows,>> How can I intellegently give you an answer to this? Yes, I am sure Autodesk has copies of WIN/95 also. I don't have one, but that is a moot point. The whole point of being a BETA release is to allow developers to try and clean up problems. Whatever problems may or may not exist now, are certainly being addressed by developers, and will hopefully be fixed for the actual release. Until that actual release exists, there is absolutely no way to talk intellegently about the behavior of our products and that software. -Brian

>>>Can we possibly get past this tired old mechanical "standard recorded answer" mode for a second. I've been using AutoCad for over nine years now, and I'm a veteran of the AutoCAd Forum, so I'm use to these types of answers from Adesk employees.<<< Some attitude there. >>>I am considering buying a NT upgrade to try this. If this will work we can look at buying Acad 13/NT onstead of AutoCad 13/Win.<<< ACad 13 comes with licenses for DOS, Win 3.1, and NT in the same package. The NT version isn't included on the current shipping ACad package, but should be released soon.